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« Reply #15 on Jul 11, 2012, 6:08pm »

Appreciate the
guidance. There is a Chinese benevolent society here and I will also try calling a contact we met at our hotel in dung guan that We met

on a trip in may. Unfortunately we did not have the document at the time.
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« Reply #16 on Jul 12, 2012, 12:18am »

The chinese benevolent association

http://cbajamaica.com/yahoo_site_admin/a....r.194182320.pdf



You could try the local newspaper

http://www.newsgd.com/
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« Reply #17 on Jul 12, 2012, 2:26pm »

Rawbert2,
I'm beginning to think tyuti1668 was on the right track. There might have been an error in the document. Your relative came from Taishan, not Dongguan. In Taishan, there is a Tiantou 田頭 town (used to be a marketplace) within the town of Chixi 赤溪. As tyuti1668 mentioned Chixi is a Hakka town in Taishan.

Because of history of tension between the Hakka people in Chixi and the local Taishanese in the area, during difficulty times many people from Chixi went overseas. During its peak, population of Chixi was over 80,000 in 1916. By 1953, the population was down to 15,000.

Using google maps, search for "Tiantou, Taishan, Jiangmen, Guangdong, China"
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« Reply #18 on Jul 12, 2012, 10:39pm »

Thanks again for helping to zero in. Your theory makes sense joshing father returned to china shortly after arriving in Jamaica in the early 1900's but was killed on return as there were some tensions in his village. I am able to focus on Tain tou. Village and have found on map Only hesitation is that someone from a Hakka association in Cananda hindians that the document is readingTen Teow Heung county, Dong Guan City.  Notable to find this on a map though. Any thoughts ?
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« Reply #19 on Jul 12, 2012, 11:30pm »

Just to be sure we are talking about the same places, different dialects
Chixi = Chack Kay
Tiantou = Ten Teow

I'm suggesting the possibility that the Johnsiu's document was in error, it should have been Taishan, Chixi, Tiantou Heung instead of Dongguan, Chixi, Tiantou Heung.
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« Reply #20 on Jul 14, 2012, 8:22pm »

Thanks laohuaqiao. I have narrowed the search now to Tiantou village in Taishan and am trying to find the surname which is the 3 stroke Wong (meaning prince). The village database on this thread dosnt seem to work. Any other suggestions ?
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« Reply #21 on Jul 14, 2012, 8:42pm »

As mentioned before, there are only few villages in Taishan with the WONG (王) surname at ...

http://chinese.rootswiki.legacy1.net/dok....abase:wang:wong

There is a Tin Bin (田邊) village in Tai Nam To Heung (大南都鄉).
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« Reply #22 on Jul 14, 2012, 9:15pm »

Don't know where's 赤溪 in DG BUT there's "清溪" (Hakka town) in DG.
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%B8%85%E....%9E%E5%B8%82%29
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« Reply #23 on Jul 15, 2012, 2:20am »

Use Google map to search for "Chixizhen, Taishan, Jiangmen, Guangdong, China", this is the location of the town center for Chixi 赤溪, which is only a few kilometers from Tiantou whose location I gave in an above post.

As to the "3 stroke" Wang/Wong villages, Tai Nam To Heung found by lachinatown has now become Nancun Administrative village (or village committee) 南村村委会. Most of Wang villages used to be in Tai Nam To Heung are now under the jurisdiction of Nancun Administrative Village.

Nancun 南村, in turn, is now under the town of Douhu 都斛, which is just above Chixi 赤溪.

Using Google Maps, search for "Taishan, Nancun, Jiangmen, Guangdong, China" to locate Nancun. Nancun(Wang/Wong villages), Chixi town center and Tiantou town center form a triangle, each about 5 or 6 km from the other two.
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« Reply #24 on Jul 15, 2012, 2:39am »

If you have someone to inquire for you in Chinese (try Cantonese), the phone number for Douhu Nancun Administrative Village 台山市 都斛 南村村委会 011-86-750-5256417

You may also want to try Qingzhou Administrative Village, neighbor village of Nancun, with some Wang/Wong villages.
台山市 都斛 庆洲村委会 011-86-750-5256419

011-86 is China's long distance country code and 750 is Jiangmen city areacode.
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« Reply #25 on Jul 15, 2012, 9:32am »

Very much appreciated. This information will take me a far way. My neighbors are Chinese expats and so I will inquire. Thanks again. Will advise of the progress.
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« Reply #26 on Oct 12, 2012, 10:31pm »

I posted a request a few months ago trying to locate wife's grandfather in china. I posted his registration document when he landed in Jamaica but there was still some uncertainty about the village. Document said Dongguan but sources on the net said likely to be Taishan.

We have located a letter that was sent several years ago from his family in China to Jamaica and it is now attached. Requesting assistance in interpreting the chinese writing so that we can identify the village and house address to see if we can send someone to see if any of the family is still living there.
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« Reply #27 on Oct 13, 2012, 3:59am »

rawbert,
The letter came from city of Guangzhou (Canton).

Sender Wang/Wong
39, Xihua Lane No. 2, North Jiegang Road, Guangzhou, Guangdong Province, China
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« Reply #28 on Oct 13, 2012, 6:05am »

Thank you very much. Will search the map.
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« Reply #29 on Oct 13, 2012, 11:21pm »

Sorry, a typo in the address, should have been

39, Xihua Lane No. 2, North Jiefang Road, Guangzhou, Guangdong Province, China

On maps the road may be Jiefang Bei Road, where bei means north
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