www.jaipu.cn

Yes, there is the market aspect although I do wonder how many will want or be able to pay for access. Remains to be seen how much it will cost.

I've run the page thru the google toolbar translator. I'm really interested in what's in the Shanghai Library collection. However, I don't understand the search tool. The first box seems to be family name. The Last box is a province. What am I supposed to enter in the second box? The field labelled 家谱名 which I think is "famous genealogy" - what do I enter there? Tried entering my first ancestor's name. Doesn't seem to do anything - I can't even get an error message.

Hello Kerry,

According to Yahoo Babel Fish's translation, the 2nd box is "Genealogy name"

The translation of that part os the page is:

" Welcome to arrive at the online genealogy collection Partner----Shanghai Library The Shanghai Library is domestic and foreign collects Chinese genealogy original part quantity most units, and has carried on scanning computerization processing, gives everybody in this share, regarding studies the Chinese history to have the important historical data value! Searches you to be interested quickly the genealogy!
Surname:
Genealogy name:
Place: All multi-provinces or are unclear Beijing Tianjin Hebei Shanxi Inner Mongolia Liaoning Jilin Heilongjiang Shanghai Jiangsu Zhejiang Anhui Fujian Jiangxi Shandong Henan Hubei Hunan Guangdong Guangxi Hainan Chongqing Sichuan Guizhou Yunnan Tibet Shanxi Gansu Qinghai Ningxia Xinjiang Hong Kong Macao Taiwan ".

I wonder if you have to register before you can search?

{To view Chinese characters: Go to the top of the browser, click on [View], then click on [Character Encoding], then click on [Unicode(UT8)]}

I found about 20 Zupu’s 族譜 (family genealogy booklet) for 19 surnames located on line at www.jiapu.cn. These Zupu’s are based in the province of Guangdong. Here is the link:

search.jiapu.cn/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=&gst=&rank=0&_80004003=&_F0003F26=&_82004040-gpid=30148&prox=1&db=jiapusurname&ti=5562&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&hc=50
If you forgot how to configure your computer to read Chinese: siyigenealogy.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=software&action=display&thread=849

Here is a photo with my attempt to provide some translation:


In order to open the Zupu’s, you need a membership. I think if you join via www.Ancestry.com and ignore the request for membership fees, you can carry your membership to their sister site www.Jiapu.cn.

Look under the column bubbled ‘Last Name’ and see if your surname is among the lucky 19 names listed. If so, click on the far left column and open the portal to the Zupu.

Xie 谢 portal:
The far right shows 2 Zupu booklets 001 & 002 which are links. Click on those links.

Here is what you may find:
Front page of the Xie谢 Zupu:

Notice there are 108 pages and you can either page through each page or input the page number to go directly to a destination page.

I will ‘screen scrape’ each page (sometimes up to 250 pages) to save the images onto my hard drive.

I make heavy use the Firefox browser www.mozilla.com/en-US/ (I also use keyboard shortcuts rather than only mouse clicks ) with the gTranslate extension addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/918. With this extension, I would select the Chinese characters and it would display the English translation automatically (I am illiterate in Chinese).

I would page through the 100-200 plus pages, snap an image of each page with the Pearl Crescent Image Saver addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10367 extension for Firefox. I then print the image with Cute print driver www.cutepdf.com/ , which saves the pages as Acrobat PDF.

So far, every above program is free of charge as of this posting. If someone can recommend a free or inexpensive program to combine the 250 individual PDF's into one PDF, please advise.

Who knows how long www.jiapu.cn will allow viewing these Zupu’s. I am not even sure how applicable are these Zupu’s. However, the 1-3 hours of ‘screen scraping’ is less time than a trip to the homeland.

Good luck to the lucky 19 surnames.

Doug

Doug,

Well done for your persistence to search. My Clan Zupu still have not made it to this site. Our Clan has donated a set to the Guangzhou Library though. (I also have my own set, and trying to expand my collection, just on my Clan name -- and that will have to come from the Great Plains of China, where we originated -- e.f Hebei)

Happy hunting to all.

Regards, Ah Gin

Doug & Ahgin,

This might only apply to just Tan genealogy books ( jiapu, zupu, and zhong zupu ), however, I would like to note that in my past couple years of Chinese genealogy research, I have noticed 2 trends related to Chinese genealogy books.

Trend 1 : There are very few handwritten ( manuscript / transcript ), jiapu and published clan zupu at the county / national levels prior to year 1949 availabe. They are quite scarce and really difficult to find, copy and/or buy. Most of these were destroyed in the early 1950s when the Communists systematically destroyed almost all ancestral halls in which there were copies kept. The government also restricted the publication of such books and they even purged genealogy books from the used book stores. The Red Guard during the Cultural Revolution (1966 - 1976) also did a pretty good job of destroying the rest when they were found. The ones that were spared were hidden and buried by family members, copies carried by overseas Chinese to foreign destinations, and some books managed to reach Hong Kong and Taiwan, fortunately, some survived as part of East Asian collections in academia.

Trend 2: Since around year 2000, there seems to be a revival in Chinese genealogy research and a definite resurgence in the publication of new clan genealogy books. These new genealogy books differed from the earlier the genealogy books from Trend 1 in that they were published in simplified Chinese characters, the lineage discrepancies were resolved by groups of clan genealogy experts and it seems that the lineages were extend up to Huang Di, the Yellow Emperor.

So, my suggestion is to never pass up the opportunity to copy or buy a copy of your surname genealogy book. Even though you already have a copy that includes your branch, lineage segment, of the family. These other clan genealogy books provide verification of the lineages both horizontally and vertically. This collateral confirmation truly validates the authenticity of your genealogy book.

As I always say, " I never met a Tan genealogy book that I did not want to copy or buy".


Henry

I am a member of ancestry and am having trouble with the site. I get to their site through my membership and then it asks me to register my name and email to view the pics of Jiapus. I enter my user name, password and then my email BUT it always says email is not valid and it doesn't matter what email I enter, it doesn't work. It keeps going back to the register screen so I can't view the pics. Anyone know how I can view??

I am trying to view the 7th one down in the list. It almost looks similar to our clan name 沈