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Post by richardn23 on Dec 15, 2012 22:41:02 GMT -5
Proceedings of The Second International Conference On Chinese Genealogy (Chinese Edition)edited by Prof C.Y. Chien, Peter Huang, Bin Zhang Paperback: 244 pages Publisher: CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform (March 7, 2012) Language: Chinese ISBN-13: 978-1468091755 (the back cover has a group photo, presumably of those attending this conference) From the publisher's blurb at < www.amazon.com/Proceedings-International-Conference-Chinese-Genealogy/dp/1468091751/> : "The Second International Conference on Chinese Genealogy was successfully concluded at the International Academic Exchange Center of Nanjing Normal University on December 3-5, 2010. During the conference, Chinese and international scholars, experts and specialists on genealogy had a nice forum to exchange their knowledge and expertise. The Editorial Board did our best to provide cultural exchange opportunities to the attendees. We also took every opportunity to promote friendship and understanding amongst enthusiasts of Chinese culture/genealogy at the conference. Through the support and the efforts of participating friends and members of our Association, the proceedings of "The Second International Conference on Chinese Genealogy" is finally published for your perusal. Originally the proceedings were to be published in China, after much consideration we have decided to publish it in the US."
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Post by Henry on Dec 19, 2012 10:07:17 GMT -5
richardn23,
Thank you for this very valuable post.
I ordered and received these proceedings, in Chinese, and there were only a couple articles in both Chinese & English - one excellent article is:
"Building a Global Network of Chinese Genealogical Information", in Chinese & English, by Bin Zhang ( VP of DAZUPU and Associate Librarian of California State University, Sacramento
"The mission of DAZHONGHUA Family Tree Development Association (aka DAZUPU) is to develop a global repository of genealogical information of Chinese descendants. This paper addresses some technical issues related to this family tree project"
I suggest that Doug Joe and some of our other technically enlightened members of our Forum that understand and use GEDCOM contact Bing Zhang for future details on how GEDCOM is used in DAZHONGHUA.
As this conference in Nanjing, China in 2010, there has probably been some progress and developments regarding DAZUPU since then.
Hopefully, Doug can report back to the Forum, as Doug is the Moderator, Software for Chinese Genealogy and advise our members on how to become compatible and possibly linked with this DAZUPU project.
DAZUPU
DaZhongHua Family Tree Development Association
1006 - 4th Street, Suite 210
Sacramento, CA 95814 USA
Phone (916) 231 9414
FAX (916) 251 2922
info@dazupu.org
Henry
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Post by Doug 周 on Dec 22, 2012 11:03:00 GMT -5
GEDCOM 5.5.1 is only a de facto standard. “The GEDCOM specification is not published by an internationally recognised standard body, but by the Family History Department, a department of the Church of the Latter Day Saints (LDS)....GEDCOM is a standard. However, as it is not published or endorsed by an internationally recognised standards body it is not a de jure standard, but merely a company-specific specification that soon after its creation became the de facto standard for data exchange between different genealogical applications.” 1. Even the title page states: THE GEDCOM STANDARD DRAFT Release 5.5.1….. It must not be used for programming of genealogical software while in draft, …. 2. For those interested, see: A Gentle Introduction to GEDCOMclick. GEDCOM 5.5 is the official version. Draft 5.5.1 differs by allowing Unicode, Maps, Longitude, Latitude, romanized & phonetic variations of text, and URL’s 3. As the referenced article indicates, 5.6 and 6.0 are unreleased and abandoned standards respectively. Herein lies a problem of convincing the above international non governmental agency to recognized this religious organization’s 1999 de facto standard. |
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Post by Doug 周 on Aug 19, 2014 10:18:02 GMT -5
It has been a long time since Henry asked me to comment. I have had several conversations with the director, who lives on the west coast along with 3-4 board members. I eventually wanted to come to closure on this thread. My reason for the delay is stated at the end. If you search dazupu, you will see Kerry's comments and one of my own comments which touch on the same ideas as below. Dazupu is meant to have a similar concept as the Los Angeles based Geni.com (now part of MyHeritage.com). Geni's mantra is that every family tree is connected, and much of the information is shared. The idea is a single family tree. They encourage free uploading of your family tree data. The point is to get a critical mass such that eventually there will be overlap and genealogical connections with other family trees. This business model is meant to drive interest and encourage subscriptions. Their programmers make the interface easy to use, since this will encourage casual genealogist to upload their information. You can search and view other family trees. Dazupu 中华大族谱协会 click in Chinese means Big Family Tree. Instead of having a single programming interface like Geni, they use the open sourced software PhpGedView(PGV) click. The goal (similar to Geni) is to get a critical mass of family trees so eventually they can start having connections between family tree, or one big family tree. The configuration of PGV (like webtrees) takes some 'geek' energy and can be difficult for the computer or genealogic software illiterate. Subscription cost $50/year to host your family tree. Unfortunately, there has been no new development of PGV for years because all the programmers have migrated to developing webtrees, a branch of the PGV program (the advantages of being open sourced and not proprietary programs). Importantly, there might be security concerns with PGV because of newer exploits. Dazupu has given no indications of switching to webtrees. On the plus side is that U$50/year is less than ½ the price of hosting your family tree on other server. Special modules include Chinese calendar and Chinese style display of interactive family tree (vertical vs horizontal with most western programs). There is a greater potential of connecting with Chinese relatives if your family tree is hosted on a Chinese server. This is the concept of ‘cousin bait’; Chinese searching for relatives can find your family tree if there is a match on the search engine. See the problems Kerry had with the Google search engine click This follow up was delayed because I wanted to see if Dazupu was going to migrate to webtrees.. IMHO |
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Post by kerry on Aug 22, 2014 8:15:32 GMT -5
I think whether they base their project on PGV or Webtrees, I susupect that they need to have their own committed programming resources. I've been a happy user of PGV and Webtrees. For my own requirements, they have been excellent.
However, if I had a larger scale project I'd be worried about the ongoing support of the current open source projects. It's not like they have attracted droves of developers so the loss of one or two key people can be crippling to the ongoing vitality of the software. It's not an insurmountable problem and if they've already got someone who can modify php then they may already have this covered.
I did have a surf around the dazupu.net site but couldn't find any publicly accessible pages that showed me the extension modules you mention. Not sure what there "demo" site is but they really need one.
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Post by Doug 周 on Aug 25, 2014 1:36:38 GMT -5
Kerry, Try this site test.dazupu.net/ It is for Gary Locke, the former US Ambassador to China. You will probably need to ask for a password. |
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Post by kerry on Aug 25, 2014 7:26:51 GMT -5
Call me harsh if you like but if they can't put up an open and functional demo site, I don't think they are ready for prime time yet.
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