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Post by jasonauchising on Sept 21, 2012 11:27:57 GMT -5
Hi Douglas,
I flew on points and was upgraded to business class both ways. So total cost was $300! After a lot of flying on Cathay Pacific of course.
I was a little ill at ease due to the fact that I was not used to a lot of the "規矩" or 'rules' that come with a trip to an ancestral village. I spent all of my cash just catering to the expectations to pay for various things, treat everyone to a meal..etc. The Mr. Tan I mentioned in my post above was Henry's nephew and he was helpful in navigating me through the above challenges. He was very helpful and I had a great time with him.
What Mao took away from the mainland, Hong Kong still has, and some of us further away overseas does a better job of maintaining in many ways. However, I think our village hall is also spartan because the people our relatives contracted to do the work did a shoddy job to save on building costs.
Anyway, I hope you have a great trip back to Hoy Ping! All the best.
Jason
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Post by albertcheong on Mar 18, 2013 23:47:32 GMT -5
Hi! everyone..... I just joined/registered here. I m from / born in West Malaysia, 2nd generation. I was told we r Hoi Ping n i speak "say yap". Mother (Kwan) is aso born in Malaysia (Malaya then) in 1925 from Hoi San. hope to b able to trace my ancestral roots n visit next as i have retired n of v average means. tx. take care. Have A Nice Day!
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Post by albertcheong on Mar 18, 2013 23:58:49 GMT -5
Hi! everyone..... I just joined/registered here. I m from / born in West Malaysia, 2nd generation. I was told we r Hoi Ping n i speak "say yap". Mother (Kwan) is aso born in Malaysia (Malaya then) in 1925 from Hoi San. hope to b able to trace my ancestral roots n visit next as i have retired n of v average means. I hope through this forum I will b able to get more information about the surname of CHEONG, ÕÅ . tx. take care. Have A Nice Day!
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Post by lachinatown on Mar 19, 2013 9:51:55 GMT -5
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Post by laohuaqiao on Mar 20, 2013 16:01:47 GMT -5
Kwan/Guan 关/關 and Cheung/Zhang 张/張 are two big surname clans in Hoi Ping/Kaiping. Within the Siyi area, these two surname clans are predominantly in Hoi Ping/Kaiping. There are some Cheung/Zhang 张/張 villages in Taishan, it would be interesting to check if these villages are in fact in areas of Taishan adjacent to Kaiping, as lachinatown suggested. If so, the Cheung/Zhang 张/張 clan in Taishan most likely descended from Cheung/Zhang 张/張 in Kaiping. As to Kwan/Guan 关/關 of Kaiping, their clan and the Seto/Situ 司徒 clan are the two big surnames in the town of Chikan 赤坎. Centuries ago, as the two clan expanded, there might have been some physical conflicts. The differences have long been settled and clan pride has continued to lead to friendly rivalry between the two. Many members of both clans went overseas to make a living. In the early 1920s the Seto/Situ clan raised money to build a 3-story Situ Library and on top of that a clock tower with a clock imported from Boston. Every hour on the hour the clock sounded and could be heard miles away. One can imagine that each chiming of the clock must have felt like a sledge hammer over the head of the Kwan/Guan clan members. Of course they had to raise money to build their own library. The Kwan/Guan Library, a 3-story building, was opened in 1931, complete with a clock tower and a clock imported from Germany. For years the two rival clocks could be heard simultaneously in Chikan. The rivalry showed up in other areas, one clan built a hotel, the other would build a hotel too; one built a theater and a cinema, the other would do the same, all to the benefit of the residents of Chikan and brightening up their lives. For an article in Chinese and photos of the two libraries, www.chens.org.cn/xs/news/?6818.html
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Post by douglaslam on Mar 21, 2013 4:59:38 GMT -5
Wow, laohuaqiao that is a good read on friendly rivalry between the Kwan and the Seto clans. It says a lot about the pride of the old timers. One can only surmise what Mao's Cultural Revolution and Out with the Old drive had done to the collections housed in the original Kwan and Seto libraries. I had the good fortune of visiting the Kwan Library by the river in 2010. It is a place, together with Chikan, I would like to see again with a camera in hand and taking better mental note of what I'd be seeing. DL
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