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Post by philiptancl on Oct 9, 2013 4:33:05 GMT -5
Hi Kendrick,
Is “Teng” the surname of your great great grandfather Teng Yamco? If it is so, could the Chinese character of “Teng” be 鄧 in traditional Chinese character or 邓 in simplified Chinese character; the same surname as Deng Xiaopeng? If his birthplace is written in Spanish, hopefully somebody in Ilocos Norte, with some knowledge in written Chinese, could provide the Chinese characters. From what I can gather so far, Romanized Chinese names within South East Asia (be it Philippines, Malaysia/Singapore and Indonesia) appeared to be done completely differently from each other.
At what age did your great great grandfather go to Philippines? Why I ask this is because if he went as an adult, there could be a high possibility that he might already had a wife (and family) back in Xiamen. I had come across many such cases here in Malaysia.
Xiamen is a big city and people there are very proud that they have kept the city very clean. What intrigue me, while I was there a few times before, is that it is cheaper to buy duck meat than the intestine/feet/neck/tongue/head of the duck (different parts of cooked duck are widely sold).
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Post by kendrick on Nov 7, 2013 5:18:38 GMT -5
Hello! Attached is the gravestone of my grandfather. I don't know if this will help.
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Post by kendrick on Nov 7, 2013 5:23:17 GMT -5
Thank you for the further suggestions you gave me. Yeah. "TENG" is his last name. I don't even know if he left China as an adult...
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Post by philiptancl on Nov 8, 2013 8:41:24 GMT -5
Hi Kendrick,
Whilst one can guess the Chinese characters for your great great grandfather if one has some ideas of how Chinese characters were romanized in Philippines at that time, I see no mention of his ancestral village in Fujian even in Spanish. I am at a loss of how to guide you further except for suggesting the following:
1. See if you can find any of your Teng relatives in Philippines who had corresponded or received letter(s) from someone in the ancestral village in Fujian before. 2. See if any of your Teng relatives have ancestral tablet(s) in their houses for their deceased Teng relatives in Philippines.
Philip
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Post by Doug 周 on Nov 8, 2013 9:51:14 GMT -5
Kendrick,
I would recommend you go back to Genealogy 1a. You will need to interview as many elders as possible and review their memento's and photos. There are several interviewing techniques, but they are all culturally biased. I have no experience with Filipino-Chinese interviewing techniques. As you do your archaeological archival research, look especially for any Chinese characters and image them to show to other resources for interpretation. Frequently Chinese literates can tell if the character is a surname, the gender of the name, or if it is a geographical location.
I understand the need for your ancestors to shed all Chinese characteristics in order to assimilate into their new country. Even if you feel you have exhausted all sources available to you, make sure you write down your notes and thoughts. This way, when your descendants again try to retrace their ancestors (guaranteed they will try again), they can continue where you have left. This is the least you can do for your legacy and heritage.
IMHO
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Post by sim on Dec 1, 2013 20:51:53 GMT -5
Hello, I am also looking for relatives in Amoy, China. Family name is Sim. My grandfather passed away during WWII, and I do remember a female relative (apparently a high-ranking official of a province in China) visiting us in the Philippines during the 1980's. Can you please help me? I do not have Chinese characters to help me with, but when I do visit the Philippines next time, I will make sure to take photographs. I am now in the United States.
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Post by utillef on Dec 19, 2013 20:27:55 GMT -5
hello everyone, my name is utillef. as I've read these posts about relatives in china, it got me curious about our own relatives there too. according to my aunt, my grandfather came from china during the early 1900's(we're not really sure about the exact year), and eventually got married to my grandmother here in malilipot, albay. his name was TY CHIONG QUING. I'am wondering if we could still get to know or meet my grandfather's family in china. I think need some valuable tips on how to extent the scope of my search.
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Post by lailanae on Jan 6, 2014 7:48:44 GMT -5
Hi I'm looking for my relatives located in Amoy China, my grand father name is chuamping teo who born is Amoy China. We are in the Philippines now.
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Post by helen on Jan 11, 2014 14:13:58 GMT -5
Hi lailanae- Do you have any chinese characters /headstone/ further information?
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Post by lailanae on Jan 13, 2014 7:42:20 GMT -5
Hi lailanae- Do you have any chinese characters /headstone/ further information? Hi, I don't have Chinese character but my father name is Bandiong teo and my grandfather is real CHINESE his name is chuamping teo, I am looking for my relatives in Amoy China, can someone help me?
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Post by Doug 周 on Jan 13, 2014 9:00:52 GMT -5
lailanae,
Sorry, but you really need to have Chinese characters and not phonetic spelling. Occasionally some of the members of this forum can make an educated guess on the Chinese surname based on phonetic characters, but this is usually on ancestors from specific Pearl Delta regions of Guangdong, with the phonetic spelling into English (American and occasionally Australian English). The reason is their prior personal experience with the large number of Chinese from the area and experience with individual dialects of the regions. Again, it is only a guess and usually imprecise.
As I mentioned to other contributors of this particular thread, you will need to research your elders' photographs and paperwork for Chinese characters. Unfortunately, a common experience among Filipinos of Chinese descent is that their gravestones will not contain Chinese characters. The pressure to assimilate to survive must have been even greater than my ancestors in the USA.
Finally, consider archiving the DNA of your lineage. I wrote an opinion piece in the DNA section. You will need to apply simple Mendelian genetic logic to see whom to sample. If you are many generations from your ancestors in China, then you will only need the Y DNA and mitochondrial DNA. If the correct person is readily available with the proper heritage, there is no rush.
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Post by kendrick on Jan 19, 2014 14:20:05 GMT -5
HI Philip!
I don't know anyone in my place who could guess the characters of my great great grandfather's name. But, i do have Chinese friends who can guess the character. Would this help? thank you!
-Kendrick
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Post by kendrick on Jan 19, 2014 23:49:18 GMT -5
Hi Philip! How are you? I have a friend from China who helped me figure out the chinese characters of my great great grandfather's name. Attached is the one he wrote. I hope this helps...
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Post by kendrick on Jan 19, 2014 23:50:46 GMT -5
Hi Doug! How are you? I have a friend from China who helped me figure out the chinese characters of my great great grandfather's name. Attached is the one he wrote. I hope this helps... Attachments:
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Post by kendrick on Jan 20, 2014 0:24:14 GMT -5
This is also his picture. He had braided hair, my mom said. Attachments:
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