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Post by xwong on Mar 8, 2015 15:53:58 GMT -5
In pin yin, wang=king wong, and huang=yellow wong. while there are more wangs than huangs in china, there is a village in taishan where they are mostly wangs (while huangs are more prevalent in taishan). from what I heard about 30 years ago, the warlord(s) were pursuing certain huangs. to get away or confuse the enemy, the huangs changed their name to wang. I heard the same legend about 10 years ago from a person from kaiping. of course none of the people involved were around when this happened, so your guess is as good as mine. despite all this, the wong family us national convention (circa 2000-2009) voted to allow wangs to join the association: but only wangs from nancun (south village) in taishan. thus, many present day huangs believe this legend.
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Post by kcwong999 on May 13, 2015 8:42:53 GMT -5
I am a Wong from Singapore. My ancestors came from Toishan (Taishan) Spectacles village. Can anyone shed some light on my ancestry?
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Post by lachinatown on May 13, 2015 9:15:39 GMT -5
What is the name of the village in Chinese?
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Post by crossover123 on May 18, 2015 20:57:39 GMT -5
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Post by jeffmwknight on Nov 27, 2015 2:16:04 GMT -5
Hello, looking for some information concerning the Wong family from Taishan. My father said that my grandfather came from the village of Shek Moon 石門. Any information or links to information would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
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Post by lachinatown on Nov 27, 2015 8:38:15 GMT -5
In the village database for Wong, we were only find two village begin with the character Shek, there is no Shek Moon. Any more information than the village name, like north, south of Taishan?
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Post by xwong on Nov 30, 2015 23:35:45 GMT -5
reply to jeffmwknight.
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Post by xwong on Nov 30, 2015 23:45:45 GMT -5
I have been using the site "friendsofroots.org" from san Francisco. if you search the database, there is a shek moon in chung shun county. this is not exactly tai shan county, but a lot of people from the whole area consider it tai shan. some people from kaiping say they are from that place but say they are tai shan. if you go to the database, check out chung shun county, area 2, in tai tung heung. that village is predominantly "king" type wongs. judging from your email name, you must belong to the knights in boston. is this so? a volleyball player?
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Post by kcwong999 on Dec 1, 2015 5:56:25 GMT -5
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Post by christine on Feb 16, 2016 20:15:34 GMT -5
I have the whole Wong book for Hoisan if you want me to do lookups on your village. You'll need to provide the ancestors' names (whatever you have) in addition to the village name.
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Post by douglaslam on Feb 18, 2016 7:20:20 GMT -5
Hi Christine, good to see you making an appearance after a long sabbatical. This is unrelated to Wong Family in Toishan, I am keen to know what has happened to Nurse Lannine and her search which you had a prominent role. Douglas
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Post by christine on Feb 20, 2016 3:52:41 GMT -5
Hi Douglas, Thank you for the kind reply. Nurse Lainie in fact got confirmation of the suspected Chinese ancestry in her family. I personally went to the National Archives for her to retrieve her grandfather's file. It contained the exact same photograph of him as a young boy, that she had kept for years. They were identical copies. We learned that not only was her grandfather half Chinese, he had spent time living in his own father's ancestral village. This turned out to be more than an American story, to learn that he had lived two very different lives. I learned that he had cooked jook for her when she herself was little and she never realized she was eating Chinese comfort food because he didn't say a word about it. We learned that her grandfather was named SooHoo Joke/Chouk, Joke/Chouk being "bamboo" once we saw the Chinese characters for his name. She had always known him by the American name he adopted, Theordore Johns. We learned that his Chinese father had raised him after his white mother became estranged due to shame of bearing a half Chinese son. Neither of us can ever know what went through her grandfather's mind, having been raised by his Chinese father and then spending his adult life sharing no details with his own family about this history, and going on to marry white, and "pass" in essence for a Caucasian. We even found long lost relatives of the SooHoo family! It's kind of like the floodgates opened, and we went so far back in time with details that it started throwing things forward into this present life, blood relations she never knew she had. She has a lovely photograph of her full Chinese greatgrandfather now, and a whole slew of Chinese American cousins. Nurse Lainie was incredibly grateful and created a quilted gift for me as a token of thanks, which I still have laid across my husband's great grandparents' trunk less than 10 feet away from me right now actually. Nurse Lainie has a son who has turned out to be a very skilled photographer as well. At one point I was very deep into the research of this family, and I stepped back as she got a very good understanding of the new information and she did a fabulous job owning it, going to various presentations and sharing her story and all her findings, and learning about her long lost cousins. I am very proud of what came of all the research, and so happy that she proudly holds light to everything that was kept secret from her.
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Post by douglaslam on Feb 20, 2016 6:00:49 GMT -5
Hi Christine, thank you very, very much for filling us in on Nurse Lainie's story. Her story was intriguing, and had me in suspense for the years that you were on sabbatical. Nurse Lainie has the same family name as our redoubtable Fay Chee. Let's hope Nurse Lainie would make a reappearance here.
Ever since my attempt to find your Chan family background in China, which included calling on 合水口 Hup Shui Ho which you and your had also called on, the genealogy bug had well truly got to me.
I had some success stories to tell, and am going to meet some of the people I engaged on this Forum in Melbourne next week. It has been a most rewarding experience for me.
Last October, I met a group of 17 Australians young and old and guided them to their ancestral village. In October this year, I am likely to guide my cousin, from San Francisco, his wife and daughter to China. More excitement ahead.
I am quite happy to set my travel itineraries to suit the people who placed their faith in me to help them. I endorse and encourage people to reclaim their Chinese heritage.
Douglas
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Post by Doug 周 on Feb 20, 2016 7:25:27 GMT -5
Christine,
Great story.
I am trying to find the original details of the request from Nurse Lainie. Can someone help me with the link?
-Doug
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Post by christine on Feb 21, 2016 16:07:07 GMT -5
Thank you both. Doug, Nurse Lainie originally posted here: siyigenealogy.proboards.com/thread/167/seto-szeto-situ-hoiping-kaiping about halfway down the page. Douglas, I may have some new information about the Lee village in Nam Long Zhen, since we last wrote. But it's not great, and it's so far been frustrating getting a real breakthrough on it. I am afraid the village is so far gone now that I may never recover the information I was hoping to find. But...I won't know for sure until I personally go back to China again. My father in law went to a location last year but apparently he was very unclear of what he was supposed to be looking for/asking/doing (the is his own paternal ancestral village by the way), and he did not communicate clearly with his wife (fluent Mandarin speaker who could've gotten him a lot further along) on what the situation was, so it was not fruitful. He actually emailed me and said "what is the point?" or something like that. Sigh...at least he wasn't sitting in front of me when I rolled me eyes and cursed.
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