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Post by bqc123 on Aug 15, 2013 21:02:32 GMT -5
While I was researching via Agoda.com for hotel lodging in Kaiping, it came up with several hotels. I booked with the Wilson Hotel. The hotel seems to be on TOP of a 7 story commercial plaza which seems very interesting. I clicked into the hotel site. Each hotel has an interactive map of it's location and all the surrounding hotels, restaurants, schools. I saw a location of the Kaiping Government building which appears to be some sort of a "Chamber of Commerce" or a Visitor's Bureau. I wrote to them by regular mail and I got an email response.
****************************************************************************************** From: 838883682@qq.com To: betty_chopoff@hotmail.com Subject: Greetings from Kaiping,Guangdong China(Hoiping, Kwangtung, China) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:19:46 +0800
Dear Betty,
Thank you for your letter to the Kaiping Municipal Government on your China Trip. My name is Pecky Yang, from the Foreign Affairs & Overseas Chinese Affairs Office of Kaiping city. According to the information you provided, we have found your mother's village and found the building.
Dear Betty, referring to the questions you listed in your letter. I have the following suggestions:
1.Kaiping hotel(Around 200yuan RMB a night) and Kaiping Wilson Hotel(About 250yuan RMB a night) are both met your requirements, close to local restaurants and shops. Both of them are of three-star-level. but Wilson Hotel locates in the area is more prosporous. 2.I suggest hire a van(About 400yuan RMB a day). It would be more convinient for you to visit your mother's village, Diaolou and other local destinations.
3. For the tour guides who speak English and Chinese, our office can help you with this. As our office, the Foreign Affairs & Overseas Chinese Affairs Office is a government office especillay provide services for the Overseas Chinese and Foreigners. We can help you reserve the hotel, hire a car/van and accompany you to search your roots.
Dear Betty, please feel free to contact me if you have any questions or if you have anything wanted me to help. It will be Ok by email or by phone(work:0086-750-2213782; cell phone:0086-13929082383)
Best wishes,
Peck *******************************************************************************************
So ...................THAT'S interesting to know. I thought I share it with you all. I don't know if hiring a van @ 400yuan RMB day ($65.00 USD) is a reasonable price ....what's a day?...like how many hours? If it's just the 2 of us (like my husband and I)...you might get CHEAPER price looking around some more but if you have a lot bunch of people and you split up the costs, then it might be worth it.
Anyone got any suggestions or the price of hiring a driver or taxi for a day that is LESS than 400yuan RMB day? If so, nd what did you pay? And what did you get for your money? And how many hours do you get? Where did you find them?
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Post by FayChee on Aug 19, 2013 8:54:53 GMT -5
Hi Betty, Thanks for posting your email from the Chinese Foreign Affairs office in Kaiping. I emailed them and they just answered my question about my niece's village.
Great find!
Fay Chee
"Your nephew's wife's village still have the same name:Tiqiao village, Mucun Administrative District, Changsha Street Office, Kaiping City Guangdong 529300.(广东省开平市长沙街道办公室幕村村委会题桥村). The village is close to the Yici bus station. But I don't have a map to show you. I am sorry. "
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Post by bqc123 on Aug 20, 2013 8:31:08 GMT -5
Glad to help you. Back a year ago I decided to go to China to find my 86 yr old disabled mother (who is currently living in a Care home) old village in China. I didn't know where to start so I got on the Yahoo! search engine. I clicked on everything that was related to China, villages, etc. The first breakthrough was when my husband paid a search and it came back with a copy of my parents marriage certificate that listed both their addresses in (Kaiping) Hoiping. From there, I started looking into everything about this area and found the information about the Diaolou. My mother was born in one of these and grew up living in it. I contacted my 92 yr old Uncle Poon (mom's brother) and he gave me some information on the POON village. With the help of KEVIN LEE, he was able to locate both my parents villages. While I was looking for a hotels in China and also in Kaiping, I discovered Agoda.com and Best China Hotel Reservation Center,Website: www.bestchinahotel.com/, Email: service@bestchinahotel.com, Tel: +86-757-88286768, Fax: +86-757-88521052. Both will give you great deals for Hotels in Guangzhou and Kaiping. While I was in these websites looking at the Hotel Specs, I used their interactive map and moved around to areas around the hotel to see what's there. That's how I found that Kaiping Municipal Government agency. But I also found that this SAME information was previously posted in 2010 thread on this website: *************************************************************************************** Post by jing on Apr 19, 2010 at 3:36pm In 2005, while visiting various ancestral villages in the Pearl River Delta, we met Mr. Deng Jian Qiang. He is the Head, The Foreign Affairs & Overseas Chinese Affairs Office of Kaiping City. 529300. Address: 2/F, #18, Yanjiang Rd. West, Changsha. Kaiping.Guangdong, China. Office Tel:2215216; Fax : 2286842. No email information. There is someone in that office who speaks English. Our China Migration History Tour was led by Professor Marlon Hom, PhD. San Francisco State University. Asian American Studies. Jing ***************************************************************************************************** Now I wished this website: www.siyigenealogy.proboards.com should have a file folder called "Agencies to find village". That would take care of all my previous 7 previous posting of inquiries. Anyone who are looking for their ancestral village would have to just clicked on that ONE file folder and get the list and email addresses. This Foreign Affairs & Overseas Chinese Affairs Office of Kaiping City is a GOVERNMENT AGENCY. Like ANY OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCY, they have the resources to have the latest data information equipment therefore they MUST HAVE A DATA BASE of EVERY VILLAGE and NAMES OF EVERYONE IN THAT VILLAGE....down to the names of their pets. (just kidding). Oh, I got a reply on a re-estimated costs from them on the costs of hiring a driver. It's 400 RMB $65.00 for a van/day. That's worth it if you have a bunch of people to split the costs. I told them it's just the 2 of us. They said it's 240 RMB ($40.00) for a smaller vehicle. I guess this is worth it is the driver is ALSO the travel guide and if you don't have to pay for his admission ticket into the Diaolou since he also works for the government so this brings to mind that if you hire a Taxi for day, the guy either have to sit outside the Diaolou sites and wait for you or if you bring the driver in, then you have to pay for his entrance ticket....which adds to your costs. That's something to considered. Another organization (all run by volunteers) is a call "Friends of Diaolou". They have volunteers to help drive you around. You have negotiate the costs with them. The costs goes to help their organization. I email Selia. She has volunteers to drive you around but you have to pay for the cost of the entrance ticket...and there is a fee for parking. Here's your contact. Selia Tan ( seliashen@gmail.com). She wrote: **************************************************************************************************** 8/19/13 To: Betty Chopoff Hi, Betty, It would be easy to find our people to help when you come if you speak fluent Siyi. Please just let me know if you need us. best, Selia Tan (seliashen@gmail.com) ************************************************************************************************** P.S. If you are in Guangzhou and want to go to Kaiping, PLEASE DO NOT PAY $150.00 - $350.00 (one way) to hire a Driver or a TAXI. The distance between Guangzhou to Kaiping is 87 miles and 2 hours drive. There are SEVERAL TOLL bridges along the way that you might have to pay if you travel by car or taxi. FOR 10 BUCKS, take the BUS at the FANGCUN STATION in the Fangcun District to downtown Kaiping City. ( www.chinabusguide.com/guangzhou.../) Special buses runs from Guangzhou to Kaiping all day long. It takes 2 hours and it cost you 61 RMB = 10 BUCKS!!! You can sit in an air condition bus and enjoy the scenery and you don't have to pay the tolls!!! Need more information....just go to Yahoo! and type in GUANGZHOU to KAIPING...and there you'll find the GUANGZHU BUS SYSTEM, ROUTES, MAPS, COSTS, ETC. ( www.chinabusguide.com/guangzhou.../) Note there are 4 other bus stations or railways in Guangzhou with destinations going to Kaiping but they don't go to KAIPING CITY. Those bus lines end at Shuikou, Kaiping and Jiangmen, Kaiping which are areas located OUTSIDE of the Kaiping area. Of course, if your relative villages are located nearer to those cities, then by all means get the bus that gets you CLOSER TO THEM. (Interesting info: Shuikou town manufactures falcets. that's where 90 percent of the kitchen and bathroom falcets comes from if the box said "Made in China". ) If you are the type that needs VISUAL PICTURES to find that Fangcun bus station, go to any of the hotel sites like Agoda.com or Hotel.com into their any of their interactive maps, look for hotels (Flower Hotel) in the Fangcun district, zoom into the neighborhood and you'll find the Fangcun Bus Station. My advice is "DO YOUR HOMEWORK before you journey out on your adventure to China........that's half the fun"!. SO THAT'S IT!! THERE YOU HAVE IT....NOW...... YOU KNOW EVERYTHING!!!! Read more: siyigenealogy.proboards.com/thread/1157#ixzz2cVk4lwVj
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Post by bqc123 on Aug 20, 2013 8:47:55 GMT -5
P.S.: From what I read, these Special (Long distance) buses are comfortable and have air-conditioning, with a bottom underneath area for your luggage. I guess it maybe somewhat similar to a Greyhound Bus. I read that it takes about 2 hours...but this schedule said that it's only 1.5 hours.
BUS INFORMATION : GUANGZHOU TO KAIPING (www.chinabusguide.com/guangzhou.../) Guangzhou Fangcun Bus Station to Changsha District, Kaiping Bus Timetable
Departs - EVERY 2 HOURS
Arrives
Distance 150 KM
Duration: 1.5 HOURS
Ticket Prices (RMB): 61 RMB ($10.00)
Guangzhou Fangcun 09:30 Changsha Kaiping 11:00 122km 1.5 hours 61 Yuan
Guangzhou Fangcun 11:30 Changsha Kaiping 13:00 122km 1.5 hours 61 Yuan
Guangzhou Fangcun 12:10 Changsha Kaiping 13:40 122km 1.5 hours 61 Yuan
Guangzhou Fangcun 14:20 Changsha Kaiping 15:50 122km 1.5 hours 61 Yuan
Guangzhou Fangcun 15:20 Changsha Kaiping 16:50 122km 1.5 hours 61 Yuan
Guangzhou Fangcun 17:10 Changsha Kaiping 18:40 122km 1.5 hours 61 Yuan
Guangzhou Fangcun 18:00 Changsha Kaiping 19:30 122km 1.5 hours 61 Yuan
Guangzhou Fangcun 20:30 Changsha Kaiping 22:00 122km 1.5 hours 61 Yuan
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Post by laohuaqiao on Aug 20, 2013 16:06:44 GMT -5
bqc123, Fangcun is in the southwestern part of Guangzhou and Kaiping is southwest of Guangzhou. So, Fangcun Bus Terminal to Kaiping could be 30 km closer than other bus terminals in Guangzhou. in addition, the bus route does not pass through the traffic jammed Guangzhou city center. That could account for a 30 minutes shorter ride.
There are 2 bus terminals in Kaiping city, the newer Yici Bus Terminal and the older one, simply called Kaiping Bus Terminal. They are located on opposite end of Musha Road, Yici on the northern end (northeast corner of intersection with G325, Mucun Road) and Kaiping Bus Terminal on the southern end, across the river (northwest corner of intersection with Xijiao Road). Wilson Hotel is on Musha Road, conveniently located about midway between the two terminals, 1 km away from either. Zooming in on either location in Google Maps, one can see the buses in the depots.
Where to take the bus in Guangzhou should depend on where you happen to be. If you are in Guangzhou Baiyun Airport, the best way to go is to take the airport shuttle bus to Taishan, get off at Siqian (a scheduled stop) and catch a free shuttle bus to Kaiping City. The cost is about 80 something RMB.
If you are in other parts of Guangzhou, then find the closest bus terminal that has buses to Kaiping arriving at the time that you want. A few years back, I made the mistake of taking a taxi to Fangcun Bus Terminal on a weekday afternoon. In heavy traffic, the 30-km taxi ride took 2 hours and ended up costing 130 RMB.
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Post by bqc123 on Aug 20, 2013 21:36:18 GMT -5
Thanks...I got your email and it's really helps me out. You said: "If you are in other parts of Guangzhou, then find the closest bus terminal that has buses to Kaiping arriving at the time that you want. A few years back, I made the mistake of taking a taxi to Fangcun Bus Terminal on a weekday afternoon. In heavy traffic, the 30-km taxi ride took 2 hours and ended up costing 130 RMB." Response: My husband and I will be staying at the Aiqun Hotel, No.113 Yanjiang West Road, Yuexiu District, Yuexiu District -Beijing road / Haizhu Square/Guangzhou. If you go to hotel site: www.agoda.com, you can see that the Aiqun Hotel is to the East of Shamian Island near the Pearl River Cruise dock by the Y of the River. It looks like you have to go west of that cruise ship dock and then on to Inner Ring Road, drive past Shamin Island, and get on Zhuipjng Tunnel, get to the other side of the river where the Fangcun bus station is located. It doesn't seem that far .... at least not on the map anyway. Considering at the worst scenario, if it costs you or us for Taxi 130RMB ($20.00 USD) get to the Fangcun Station and $10.00 USD /bus ticket X2 people ($20.00) = $40.00 USD to get to Kaiping....that still doesn't seem bad. The other alternative is to take TAXI from Guangzhou to Kaiping. My Uncle said to take a Taxi. I check out some websites on my computer (internet) to some Chinese transportation agencies and they seem to want $300 USD - $400.00 USD (ONE WAY) to drive us from Guangzhou to Kaiping, which I feel is a total rip off. So..... REALLY..... what's the average costs for Taxi to get a person from Guangzhou to Kaiping.? Someone told me that we can haggle with the Taxi cab driver for a lower fee. I'm not much of a haggler... besides my Chinese Supervisor at work said that many years ago when she was a College student, majoring in Chinese Studies, her group went to Beijing, China. Her group got on the Public Transit, paid their fares. One Student was a white guy (who also was majoring in Chinese studies and understands Chinese) was charged a higher fare so he got into an argument with the bus driver in Chinese.....of course the Police came and haul him off to jail. So I don't really want to make a scene. If the Taxi Cab from Guangzhou all the way to Kaiping isn't too much more than the costs of the Taxi cab ride ($20.00 USD) to Fangcun Bus Station plus the costs of the 2 bus tickets ($20.00)..........maybe it's be less hassle to just take the TAXI straight from Guangzhou to Kaiping. Well.....I could haggle "a bit" if I knew what the REASONABLE cost of the fare........ well....like, let's say if the TAXI cab costs about $60.00 USD = 360RMB...........otherwise, it's the bus for us!!! We're on a budget and we're are a bunch of CHEAPO's. (laugh) Read more: siyigenealogy.proboards.com/thread/1935/village-help-kaiping-municpal-government?page=1&scrollTo=13159#ixzz2cYxuPamMRead more: siyigenealogy.proboards.com/thread/1935/village-help-kaiping-municpal-government?page=1&scrollTo=13159#ixzz2cYxuPamM
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Post by laohuaqiao on Aug 21, 2013 6:53:49 GMT -5
Yuexiu South Bus Station is closer to Aiqun Hotel, about 2 km. I usually stay in a hotel nearby. So, I take the bus here to Taishan, which is next to Kaiping. Perhaps it's worth finding out if there's any bus to Kaiping. It's a smaller station than Fangcun, it would have fewer daily buses to Kaiping if at all.
Location: at the crossing of Yuexiu Nan Lu and Dongyuan Heng Lu, Yuexiu District
Aiqun Hotel is a famous landmark in Guangzhou, with strong ties to people of Siyi. Standing at 15 stories, built in 1930s, it was the tallest building in Guangzhou until the 1980s. The original investors for building the hotel were Taishanese. One of the architects, US trained, came from the area of Baisha district, back then in Taishan and now part of Kaiping. For decades this was where overseas Chinese stayed when they passed through Guangzhou. The hotel sits on a triangular street block along the Pearl River. It resembles the Flat Iron Building in New York City.
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Post by bqc123 on Aug 21, 2013 7:20:36 GMT -5
I'm staying at the Aiqun Hotel, No.113 Yanjiang West Road, Yuexiu District, Yuexiu District -Beijing road / Haizhu Square/Guangzhou.
I want to go to Kaiping (Changsha District) to my hotel: Wilson Hotel, Wilson Hotel No.70 Musha Road, Changsha District Kaiping 529300
According to chinabusguide.com/Guangzhou, it seems that that's the ONLY bus station (Fangcun Station) to take the bus from Guangzhou to Kaiping...that stops at the Changsha district (where the Wilson Hotel is located).
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Post by douglaslam on Aug 21, 2013 7:39:03 GMT -5
I can't offer much help except to say bus is the way to go. In my travels to Sze Yup, I have landed at Yici from my county Chungshan with a change of bus at Jiangmen. Last year, my party travelled direct from Canton Station to Taicheng, whence we proceeded to Fay Chee's ancestral home. When going to Fangcun to connect up with the bus, it is best to go via the Metro. There is a Metro Station at Fangcun. I know because I stayed at a hostel in Fangcun with my daughter in 2010. It is by the bank of the Pearl River, and there are many water holes catered for the ex-pat community and tourists.
The Aiqun or Oi Kwan to the Cantonese is a good choice. I want to give this grand old hotel a try next time I am to visit Canton. I covered Fangcun and the Oi Kwan in my travelogue on this board.
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Post by bqc123 on Aug 21, 2013 8:30:35 GMT -5
I'll share with you a personal story. I am ABC (born in America - 1950's). I'm American as McDonald's hamburger!!! I speak Siyi because my parents speak it. We lived in Chinatown, San Francisco so I am exposed to that dialect very day. I went to school in a mixed high school and college so I am exposed to people of all nationalities so the idea of going "back" to China to "find my roots" has NEVER been on my mind. My 86 yr. old disabled mother (who is living in a care home now) always said if we kids (there's 3 of us) ever grow up and travel, one of the places to go visit is China. My (Non-Asian...Russian descent) husband doesn't have any interest to travel aboard. We visited EVERY STATE of the 50 STATES of the United States in our 30 years of marriage....so we ran out of states to visit. So we had only 2 choices left....to visit Russia (his ancestral homeland) or to visit China (my ancestral homeland). He picked China so I send for all the travel brochures, flyers, advertisements, etc...everything on China tours. There was so much material that I had to put it all in my tote bag and took it to work to look at during lunch and I even haul it to visit my Mom at her care home. Usually she's TOO busy watching her Chinese soap opera on T.V. She reach over and picked up one of the brochures. She said, "Where did you get a picture of my house?" I said, "What are you talking about? That's not your house in San Francisco. That's just some weird looking building on a travel brochure!" She said, "Betty, this is my house in China!!" I looked at the brochure, it's states it's a Diaolou. I said to myself, "What's the heck is a Diaolou?" As of 3 weeks ago, I never heard of the word Dia-o-lou..........BUT YET I DID HEAR OF IT....it's not dia-o-lou.......mom always said her dad (grandfather) had a BIG BUILDING...and she pronounced it "I- LOUD". I research every article, U-Tube, internet on "diaolou". I read that there were more than 3,000 diaolous at one time and now there are only 1800 left and that Unesco have declared them to be a historical site in 2007. According to my Uncle, my mom's diaolou is still standing....it's still there. So now, I really want to go to Kaiping and I want go see it. If my mother is still not alive, I would not planned a trip to China. I think this trip to China is my destiny. Everything is pointing the way for me to go there. I don't know WHY I picked the Aiqun Hotel. I just have a "feeling" that I should booked there. After I booked it, I found out that that's the hotel built around my mother's birth. I just read your last line of your thread. You said, "The Aiqun or Oi Kwan to the Cantonese is a good choice." My mother's first name is Kwan. You said " If you are in other parts of Guangzhou, then find the closest bus terminal that has buses to Kaiping arriving at the time that you want. A few years back, I made the mistake of taking a taxi to Fangcun Bus Terminal on a weekday afternoon. In heavy traffic, the 30-km taxi ride took 2 hours and ended up costing 130 RMB." We are leaving the Aquin Hotel on 9/16 which is a Monday.. when do you is the best time of day to go to that Fangcun station and it doesn't look too far from the hotel to the station. We are going to take a Taxi from hotel to Fangcun Bus station to catch th ebus to Kaiping.............unless you can come up with what a "reasonable" taxi cost (that I can haggle) that is about or under $60- $70(max) USD for a STRAIGHT TAXI RIDE all the way to Kaiping. Read more: siyigenealogy.proboards.com/post/new/1935#ixzz2cbpdRE1R
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Post by laohuaqiao on Aug 21, 2013 8:46:33 GMT -5
bqc123, I think destination labeled Jiangmen Kaiping in your link is also in Changsha Kaiping. As I said before, there are 2 bus terminals in Kaiping City and Wilson Hotel is midway between the 2. I think (but not sure) Jiangmen Kaiping refers to one and Changsha Kaiping refers to the other. Sometimes buses stop at both, dropping off passengers at one and then the other.
Your link Chinabusguide.com does not indicate any buses from Yuexiu South Station to Kaiping, so Fangcun is the closest station.
In general, douglaslam is right that it's better, quicker and cheaper, to take the subway than taxi in Guangzhou, avoiding the nuisance of traffic jams. However, in this case Aiqun Hotel is about 1 km from the nearest subway station, a bit of a walk if you have luggage.
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Post by laohuaqiao on Aug 21, 2013 9:07:16 GMT -5
bbc123, I think it's fine to take a taxi from Aiqun to Fangcun to catch a bus to Kaiping. The suggestion was made to look at other options prior to knowing you were staying in Aiqun, because Guangzhou is a very large city and a fast changing city. My story with taxi to Fangcun was 4 years ago and it wouldn't happen today because there is subway connection that wasn't there then.
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Post by bqc123 on Aug 21, 2013 22:02:23 GMT -5
You sound so interesting.
I think you have a lot of threads that you wrote about your adventure. I'm going to try to find them and I'm going to read them all.
Do you know that while I was searching information on Diaolous, there was not a lot of books on it other than just some history so,so....about the building were built for protection and from floods...........there is NO books about a person actually writing about their life there and how they feel being abroad or the feeling of going back and why they had to go back. There is no travel books on actually HOW to get there, there buses, the scenery, the people who lived there and those who are still living there now.........I saw on UTUBE that there are people who still lived in their diaolous (the way they had always lived ....with no really western plumbing or utilities). I don't know where you are living now if you are still living somewhere in China or are you living aboard. When you went back 4 years go with your daughter, did time stand still for you or do you feel out of time as Guangzhou moves into the 21st century? When you go back to Taishan and stepping off the bus, how did you feel? Do you walk into the past again?
I am ABC..born here. Never been to China..can't even write or read the language. Mom said going to China will change me. So I bought 4 blanK journal books and I am going to keep a diary about my travel to China. I'm going to take a lot of pictures of every place I go to.
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Post by bqc123 on Aug 21, 2013 22:15:51 GMT -5
Wait........I got some fast questions for you. If we take a taxi to that Fangcun Station..
...when the Taxi let us off...........
1. Are there, like, different entrances into that station that I should know about? (It would likely happened to me that I end up going through the wrong entrance)
2. Is there a actual REAL LIVE ticket PERSON that tells us HOW to buy the ticket and ACTUALLY SELL US a ticket............OR DO WE HAVE TO FIND SOME MACHINE SOMEWHERE in drop in money and it SPITS out a ticket ....probably with my luck (an ABC who can't read Chinese)...all the instructions will be in CHINESE!!! Do we have to have EXACT CHANGE for the ticket?
3. In other words, are the SIGNS in the STATION, at east SOME of it in English?
4. THEN the last question........with our luggage....does it go up with us in the bus or do we have to check it in somewhere?
5. Will someone POINT THE WAY TO THE RIGHT AREA for us to STAND and WAIT for the CORRECT bus?
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Post by bqc123 on Aug 22, 2013 7:48:46 GMT -5
I sent a letter to my Uncle who lives in the U.S. to asked him about some of the so called "Old Chinese traditions". I'm ABC...so BEATS ME .. My China trip is only 15 days away and one of our stops is going to Kaiping to visit Mom's old village. O.K....you got to help me with all this "Chinese Tradition" stuff. Uncle said to: Giving out the red envelopes.: Uncle thingy said to give $20.00 USD to 5 people who is coming to greet us..................so............ 1. Do I put a REAL $20.00 U.S. DOLLAR bill into the Red envelopes oh, I just remember the bill has to be new /crispy ..?..or 2. Do I put the equivalent of $20.00 of Chinese RMB 120 into the red envelopes.?............ or 3. Do I put a TRAVELER'S CHECK of $20.00 into the Red Envelopes? As for the Red envelopes....Gee, REMEMBER ME.....ABC (American Born Chinese..otherwise called in Cantonese, like my mother would say, " Who Gee"..who knows nothing!)...... I ONLY have a stack of Chinese New Year "GONG HAY FAT CHOY" red envelopes in my kitchen drawer and some free give away packs of Red Envelopes that Citibank was passing out during Chinese New Year at the mall and I also have some outdated (free) red envelopes from Washington Mutual Bank (went out of business and go absorbed by Chase) that have a lot of Chinese Characters on it....who know what it said. The letter also mentioned that I am to give out red envelopes of 10 RMB to the Children...........I think I'll give out the U.S. $1.00 - "Gold" coins ($1.00). I got 4 rolls of that. (That's $100.00 right there...so I hope that's enough) That should be a" hit" for them. That should save me 50 cents each............PLUS ....LIKE..............then there is the question of HOW MANY CHILDREN are we talking about. ? AS for giving out "money" to go the villagers to buy some candy" ......well...how much money are we talking about ? What would be Appropriate Amount? Isn't it better for me to buy some American made candy? ************************************ Then there is a question of where this thingy Village is located. I guess the map that I got from www.siyigenealogy.com with the arrow pointing to the location of the thingy Village is incorrect. Uncle thingy say that arrow is pointing Long Gong Lau in Que Gong and that Mom's village correct address is 49 POON Long Lay. Well I don't know where this 49 POON Long Lay is ........Uncle thingy said that the internet map that a I got is incorrect. Look at the picture of the entrance way again......does this gateway tell you anything about the whereabouts of my Mom's village...and does any of those Chinese Characters tell you anything? Uncle thingy say that Long Gong Lau in Que Gong and that his address is 49 POON Long Lay.
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