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Post by genekl on Dec 21, 2017 11:14:35 GMT -5
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Post by chujun on Jan 7, 2018 13:18:21 GMT -5
My grandfather was said to have passed the imperial examinations so I wonder whether he was a Qing Dynasty employee or indebted to the government of the time? Were many reparation candidates not Qing sponsored? Our village area was not missionary influenced as far as I know. It is said he could not go back to China for political reasons. Maybe the victorious KMT student factions kicked out the Qing supporters? Although the Boxer Indemnity Scholars program started in 1909 during the last few years of the Qing Dynasty, most students were republicans. Not all students who traveled were scholarship recipients - my great-great grandfather wasn't. I am still digging for your grandfather! Harvard is a big help. More info (I hope) soon!
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liuyao
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Post by liuyao on Jan 27, 2018 9:55:48 GMT -5
I wanted to look into it too. The list for the first three batches on wikipedia should be fairly complete, though there are a few cases where students who came to the US by other means joined the program later. There is a book published in 1917, called Who's Who of American Returned Students. Your grandfather wouldn't be on it, but you can see the general picture of studying abroad at the time. All the Boxer Scholars are listed as "government sponsored" (as opposed to "privately sponsored"), which is not to indicate their political affiliation. (I would imagine all the students, who have had years of education in English and modern science, were supportive of the regime change; though I wouldn't label them as KMT students.) archive.org/details/whoswhoofamerica00qingTsinghua University seems to have published the list of these students, which they count as their "alumni". I remember seeing it on Google books, though I can't find it now. Harvard has digitized some of their yearly catalogues from that time, which have all the enrolled students. You can search on Google books. Have you tried ship records on familysearch.org? The students in the program would come on the same ship.
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Post by genekl on Jan 28, 2018 5:30:11 GMT -5
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Post by genekl on Jan 19, 2019 9:34:55 GMT -5
Update: End of 2018I made a few trips to Guangdong to learn about family history. The people in my father's village did not know anything about my scholar grandfather. He died before they were born. They knew my grandmother but she did not say much about her long departed (by location and death) husband. Moreover, the village residents were very young when grandmother passed away, and don't remember much of what she might have said. They still honor her grave every spring and we climbed up to see it. Just a mound of earth. Nobody knew anything about grandfather's remains.
I guess that's social reality. Good reputation for being chosen to study in America, but if failure or death prevents finishing, then it is nothing to shout about. Pity Grandmother all alone, even two sons left for America. She never saw them again.
I did manage to see a copy of the village register. It did not list any of descendants who went to the USA, maybe for safety reasons. Also, three and six generations back there were 国学生 who probably attended the Qing Imperial Academy in Beijing.
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Post by genekl on Jul 21, 2019 9:57:25 GMT -5
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