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Post by David Wong on May 14, 2005 11:06:20 GMT -5
Hi everyone - It's amazing how small the world has become with the Internet. Looking for info and more important, finding info, is so convenient. Like a number of others on this board, I have been exploring my family's history. I'm a third generation Canadian whose grandfather came to Canada at the turn of the century. I'm not sure what the average age of contibutors to this forum is, but for myself, let's just say that I've got some older teenaged kids of my own, and they're just as interested in our history as many of us are. I visited my ancestral village for the first time this year (Jan. 2005) - I was in Guangzhou for a week and had a day off...so I talked a few of my colleagues who were on this business delegation to join me for an excursion into the "hinterlands" of Guangdong province. You know, I had NO idea where to start. All I knew was that when I was a kid, my grandmother would say to me, "...remember, you're from Guangdong, HoyPing, Bak Hup, Wing On Le ... and one day you should go back and see your heritage." Well I finally did, by renting a car and barking at every person who would listen, where in HoyPing this place was. Eventually, I found it! I had my video camera rolling (of course) and started to query everyone in the village who knew my family. When I mentioned my late grandfather's name and my late father's name, I struck gold. I located a relative and sure enough, the proof was on his walls as I found a number of old photos of my family on his walls. My new found relation then informed me that my mother's ancestral village was near by...so we trekked over to "Him Loong Le" village. The most amazing event that happened was that one of my colleagues whom I had dragged along, was literally knocked over when he mentioned that his family, the "Quongs" were also from this area! Talk about serendipity. So it took a trip half way around our world to learn that my esteemed colleague was in fact, a relative also! And his family has a proud history in Canada (over 8 generations...with his mother being the first female anglican minister in Canada...but this is another story) Well, I made it back in one piece and have posted a few pictures along with some other photos and stories of our Guangzhou event. I've posted them here for all to enjoy: www.generasian.ca/ This visit to my ancestral home has spurred my interest in all the old organizations my father had participated in town. (I'm actually attending these MSG laden dinner events to touch base with folks from my parents' generation). So I've been researching a bit of history of Hoy Ping (Kaiping) and have the following bits of info: it was only officially established less than 450 years ago, as it was no man's land before then and is home to " Diao Lous " , which are tall, eclectically designed, towers that are unique to this region. These 4 to 6 storey structures are currently under consideration by UNESCO for designation as a world heritage site. I will prepare a short dissertation on the Kaiping dialou on a future post. Again, thanks to those who put this Chinese Genealogy Board together. I will inform my friends on this and look forward to seeing the synergies blossom !
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Post by Roy Dun on Jun 9, 2005 19:34:50 GMT -5
So I've been trying to understand the ancestral homeland of where my relatives came from and I came across your webpage. So is Hoy Ping a region of Guandzhou or is it similar to a city, like Burnaby is to Vancouver?
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Post by Woodson on Jun 13, 2005 8:36:23 GMT -5
So is Hoy Ping a region of Guandzhou or is it similar to a city, like Burnaby is to Vancouver? Neither. Guangzhou is a city, the provincial capital. Hoy Ping is a county. Both are part of Guangdong province. Hoy Ping is southwest of Guangzhou.
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Post by Raymond on Jul 25, 2005 5:45:48 GMT -5
I might add that Hoiping (Kaiping) is also one of the 4 neighboring districts known as Sze Yup (Siyi). The other 3 districts are Sunwui (Xinhui), Toishan (Taishan), and Yanping (Enping). Recently a 5th nearby district has been added, and that district is Hokshan (Heshan). Collectively, the 5 districts are called Ng Yup (Wuyi).
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Post by David Wong on Feb 24, 2008 21:22:02 GMT -5
This morning, I met up with a family of Wongs in Vancouver who had found me from my website.
What we shared in common was the fact that their grandfather / father was there with my grandfather at the founding of the Hoi ping (Kaiping) Wong (Huang) association in the 1920s in Vancouver. The name of this organization was called "Ming Sun".
It was really cool to share stories.
These now elderly Wongs had driven halfway across our metro Vancouver region to meet up and talk about their family reunion last July (2007).
I am now trying to figure out where in the Wong family tree we share a common ancestor.
Erik Huang, who runs that cool Huang genealogy website out of Brunei, had connected up with me, and thanks to his ability to read Chinese, he has figured out that we're related... going back to the Song dynasty sometime.
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Post by cherrybomb on Feb 3, 2009 18:41:28 GMT -5
One of my dad's side of the family is from Hoy Ping area but they left around late 1800s/1900s to Canada. Their last name is Ho.
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Post by susan on Feb 9, 2009 21:21:03 GMT -5
Hi I am going back to Taishan and Kaiping with my mother and aunty etc. in April . During my quick 2 hrs. trip to Taishan in 2005, we found ? relatives.As my Chinese was minimal I could not understand most of what was said.. We were given a letter that was written by a relative to these China ?relatives. It is from an address in Vancouver.The address is 246 W.45th Ave. Vancouver.B.C. Canada. V5tzw4. As you are from Vancouver, I am just wondering if u can assist us to trace this family or direct us to how we could find out?. The person who wrote the letter is call Wei Kum(as written in Chinese.) We believe she is my father's generation. My father has passed.The letter was dated 1998,so it is a long shot! The family surename is Lai and the village is Lin Tong village in Dunfong(sp.) Would be grateful if you could help. I am from South Australia.
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Post by Henry on Feb 9, 2009 22:32:30 GMT -5
Hi Susan,
Welcome to our Forum.
I did a reverse address look up and found: Richard Lee - telephone +1 604 327 6043
Actually the first name is the 4 letter abbreviation for Richard which the filter for this Forum re-spells it as"thingy" - I guess it thinks this is a "bad" word
You may want to call to see if this is the person or a relative of this person you are seeking. Since he lives in Vancouver - I think he probably speaks English.
Henry
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Post by David Wong on Jun 10, 2011 12:42:59 GMT -5
The Wongs of Kaiping (Hoiping) in Vancouver has an organization called the "Ming Sun Benevolent Society"... it recently celebrated it's 86th year anniversary, and the Mayor of Vancouver proclaimed a special day for it.
Next year (2012) a group of us are planning a roots searching trip to China. If you are interested (and live in Canada), and wish to participate, please message me here on this forum. Thanks
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gmaroz
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Glenn from Sydney. GF Mar See Poy from Shachong village, Zhongshan. GF Wong Shee Ping from Kaiping.
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Post by gmaroz on Aug 22, 2018 20:57:30 GMT -5
Hi all from a newbie. (Pls note I have also posted this here: siyigenealogy.proboards.com/thread/861/huang-hwang-wong-clan?page=4 ) My grandfather was Wong Shee Ping 黃樹平, my great grandfather was Wong Pang Tak 黃鵬德. Am looking for any family history or knowledge of Wong Shee Ping available, or anyone related to the village Wong On (assuming this is the correct village). The family's village is in Kaiping, we believe. A Chinese-speaking friend has just told me: "that the home village of 黃樹建 & 黃樹梧 is 開平豐歲萌村. The information in below website points out that 豐歲萌村 was a area combined by five villages: blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_726a897601011sg1.html " (Thanks Mei-Fen Kuo) ... and that the village 永安 Wing On in this area may be the family village (based on that the village is in the book and is a Wong village in the above area (now known as 馬降龍 Majianglong) (Thanks, Ely Finch!). Thank you. Please read on for a precis re what is known over here of these two Wongs, etc... I live in Sydney, an ABC (Australian-born Chinese). I am sadly only an English speaker. It has recently been discovered that Wong Shee Ping (aka Wong Yue-kung) wrote what is probably the first Australian-Chinese work of fiction when he was editor of The Chinese Times newspaper in Australia in c.1910. The work, "The Poison of Polygamy" has now been translated and will soon be published. A biography of Wong Shee Ping is to be included in the introduction. Wong Shee Ping, b. circa 1875, arrived in Australia c. 1910, left in 1923. He married in early 1923, my mother was the only child of the marriage. (This marriage may not be recorded in the family juk pu if the juk pu comes to light.) Wong Shee Ping also used the name Wong Yue-kung. He was instrumental in establishing the Koumintang in Australia, then had roles in the Chinese Nationalist government in China and Hong Kong up to at least 1931. The Poison of Polygamy was a dramatic, political and moral tale, originally published anonymously as a serial in The Chinese Times. It appears the characters and setting were based from real life, including his father Wong Pang who was a prominent merchant in Melbourne, mostly using pseudonyms. Wong Pang was born c. 1837 and arrived in Australia in 1869. The family firm was Sun Goon Shing which operated in Melbourne, and also Hong Kong. Wong Pang set up a company Woah Hawp Canton to capitalise a large gold mine in Victoria in 1882. His firm Sun Goon Shing operated as a bank at a time when many successful Chinese gold miners were sending their wealth back to China. It is believed he retired and returned to China circa 1910. Wong Shee Ping had one known brother: 黃樹藩 William Wong Shefan, who died in Melbourne 1913. Thank you again. Regards, Glenn Mar
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Post by chinesesurname on Oct 25, 2018 14:52:56 GMT -5
For the Record, my wife's mother was a Wong/Huang born in Hoiping (LongPanLi). We visited her birth village in September 2017, as well as the Quan/Kwan/Guan village of my wife's father, the Wu/Ng/Eng villages of my father and my mother's mother, and the Moy/Mei village of my mother's father. Among other things, I received a village genealogy, including descent from the Guangdong First Ancestor, along with a document in Chinese of descent of the Guangdong First Ancestor from the Yellow Emperor (111 generations). I can supply details if of further interest.
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Post by douglaslam on Oct 26, 2018 12:09:46 GMT -5
Glenn, mystery solved.
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Post by andrewhuangau on Jul 8, 2020 18:02:27 GMT -5
Hi all from a newbie. (Pls note I have also posted this here: siyigenealogy.proboards.com/thread/861/huang-hwang-wong-clan?page=4 ) My grandfather was Wong Shee Ping 黃樹平, my great grandfather was Wong Pang Tak 黃鵬德. Am looking for any family history or knowledge of Wong Shee Ping available, or anyone related to the village Wong On (assuming this is the correct village). The family's village is in Kaiping, we believe. A Chinese-speaking friend has just told me: "that the home village of 黃樹建 & 黃樹梧 is 開平豐歲萌村. The information in below website points out that 豐歲萌村 was a area combined by five villages: blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_726a897601011sg1.html " (Thanks Mei-Fen Kuo) ... and that the village 永安 Wing On in this area may be the family village (based on that the village is in the book and is a Wong village in the above area (now known as 馬降龍 Majianglong) (Thanks, Ely Finch!). Thank you. Please read on for a precis re what is known over here of these two Wongs, etc... I live in Sydney, an ABC (Australian-born Chinese). I am sadly only an English speaker. It has recently been discovered that Wong Shee Ping (aka Wong Yue-kung) wrote what is probably the first Australian-Chinese work of fiction when he was editor of The Chinese Times newspaper in Australia in c.1910. The work, "The Poison of Polygamy" has now been translated and will soon be published. A biography of Wong Shee Ping is to be included in the introduction. Wong Shee Ping, b. circa 1875, arrived in Australia c. 1910, left in 1923. He married in early 1923, my mother was the only child of the marriage. (This marriage may not be recorded in the family juk pu if the juk pu comes to light.) Wong Shee Ping also used the name Wong Yue-kung. He was instrumental in establishing the Koumintang in Australia, then had roles in the Chinese Nationalist government in China and Hong Kong up to at least 1931. The Poison of Polygamy was a dramatic, political and moral tale, originally published anonymously as a serial in The Chinese Times. It appears the characters and setting were based from real life, including his father Wong Pang who was a prominent merchant in Melbourne, mostly using pseudonyms. Wong Pang was born c. 1837 and arrived in Australia in 1869. The family firm was Sun Goon Shing which operated in Melbourne, and also Hong Kong. Wong Pang set up a company Woah Hawp Canton to capitalise a large gold mine in Victoria in 1882. His firm Sun Goon Shing operated as a bank at a time when many successful Chinese gold miners were sending their wealth back to China. It is believed he retired and returned to China circa 1910. Wong Shee Ping had one known brother: 黃樹藩 William Wong Shefan, who died in Melbourne 1913. Thank you again. Regards, Glenn Mar Hi Glenn, We may be related. I am a descendant of Wong Shi Hoo, a merchant in Melbourne. He died in 1908. The family returned to China in 1910. We were involved in the Woah Hwap Hong Kong or Canton (I can't remember which one) Mining company I believe. I've posted some of what I know on drandrewhuang.wordpress.com/category/family-history/ :-) Andrew
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Post by Henry on Jul 15, 2020 10:01:00 GMT -5
Andrew,
I know a Huang clansman from Kaiping, his ancestral village is quite close to yours. He has a 5 volume Kaiping Huang genealogy book-set (1,080 pages )published in 1900. Since there are only about 86 Huang villages in Kaiping it probably covers the Huang lineages for your ancestral village. In November 2018 when he attended the China Workshop & Tours that I organize in November, he was finally, after quite an effort, able to get this rather rare Kaiping Huang genealogy book-set. If you want to follow up on this genealogy book-set, please email me at " Tomclan@Gmail.com ".
Henry
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Post by ryanhuang on Aug 7, 2020 19:07:14 GMT -5
Greetings all, My name is Ryan Huang, a Chinese Canadian from Vancouver, BC. Like you all, my family is also from Kaiping and are Wongs/Huangs. My parents immigrated to Vancouver and I was raised here. Recently, I have been attempting to locate my "village" on maps like Google Maps as this is the new technology of exploration for the future. I am extremely fortunate to have my grandparents alive today but unfortunately as they do not know how to use technology, it has been hard cooperating with them along with our language barrier (I can't translate Kaipingnese to Google Maps) so I was wondering if you could lend a hand to assist me. I belive the village is named "Nanxing Village" (Mandarin) and our tower is "Bianchouzhulou" (mandarin). It has 7 floors and was named "Juk Lou" by the locals ("Juk" as in slanted, "Lou" as in tower in kaipingnese). This is an image data.travelchinaguide.com/community/photo/8120/81205072041462.JPGI would be extremely grateful for the help to locate this on Google Maps. Please do not hesitate to reply if you have any questions! Thank you for your time! Ryan Huang
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