YIN/LUM

[fionajkennedy]

Hi everyone,

I have recently discovered a Chinese link in my husbands ancestry and now need to discover what Chinese records exist and how to access them.

I have a Charlie Kwok YIN born c. 1880 in Canton China. The village is called Jook So Yuen about 30 miles south of Shek Kee City, with the collective name of the villages being Sheung Tong Village. All this information was written for a relative of his by a merchant in Moree, NSW, Australia.

After finding his tree on Ancestry with parents listed as Charlie YIN and Pang LUM....where do I go from here?

I need to find his birth details if possible and siblings. He immigrated to outback NSW in Australia and married and had children there although returned to China before the birth of his last child and died there - not sure where but it was apparently in 1918.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thank you all,
Fiona

[tyuti1668]

Kwok & Jook So Yuen Location

-Zhongshan is very small. ~30 miles south of Shek Kee is very near Macao ;D ;D ;D

If can find husband's ancestry name & birth place in chinese character (for example: tombstone ...) , the "research" can be easier.

[laohuaqiao]

As tyuti1668 said, the surname is Kwok 郭 , not Yin, in Jook So Yuen 竹秀園.

The goes for Pang Lum, the surname may be Pang.

Google results show a history of Kwoks from that village going overseas. One prominent family of Kwok brothers went to Australia in the late 1800s and started a Wing On fruit store. They returned to Hong Kong and founded Wing On department store and later expanded into insurance business. See, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wing_On

For a Chinese description of the Kwok family and Wing On, from Zhongshan Museum, mentioning the Kwok brothers from Jook So Yuen, www.zsmuseum.com/Release/review.asp?id=293

Seems like Jook So Yuen is not some obscure, remote village. Since all people of the same village are relatives, close or distant, finding Kwoks of Wing On in Hong Kong might be a start. (It's always nice to have rich relatives.)

"Miles" might a mistranslation of Chinese li, which is 0.5 km or about .3 miles; the village being 9 (give or take a few )miles south of Shek Kee 石岐 is not unreasonable.

[geoff]

Hello Fiona,

As he departed Sydney after 1901, there maybe a Certificate of Domicile or Certificate of Exemping from Dictation Test at the Australian National Archives online at naa.gov.au. Use "Recordsearch", location "Sydney" (try "Canberra" also) , try all names & combinations of names used in Australia. The certs will give additional personal details, departure date, name of ship & maybe photo of applicant. I've found many trips back to China at NAA, covering 3 generations.
Let us know if you have any luck or require more assistance.

[geoff]

Hello Fiona,

Stories of Chinese in country NSW 1850-1950 can be viewed online at:

archive.amol.org.au/goldenthreads

Headstones in country NSW can be found at:

cemindex.arkangles.com/

[tyuti1668]

Sheung Tong(上塘)'s locaton

[劉/Leo/Liu/Lew/Lau/Suening]

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