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Post by philiptancl on Feb 25, 2009 10:30:43 GMT -5
Hi June, As it is of interest to you, I had developed the lineage from Chen Shi down to Chen Hui and his seven sons as the first of many branches from Chen Shi for posting in this Forum. From my reckoning your In-Laws Chan ancestry should link to one of the seven sons. Please refer to Posting 4 chart at: siyigenealogy.proboards28.com/index.cgi?board=clanprogenitor&action=display&thread=845&page=3I hope Henry's nephew is able to get locate a copy of your Chan clan zupu. If he is able to, do ask him to send it to you by EMS. From what I understand from Henry, it took almost 3 months by ship to US. Not only was the box badly damaged, one of his genealogy books was as well. Philip
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Post by June on Mar 2, 2009 4:08:46 GMT -5
Hello Philip
If Henry's nephew is able to get a copy I will be asking him to send it to me the quickest way possible, even if it costs more. I would hardly be able to wait. I will check your posting. THis is all very interesting but quite complicated so I need to read and absorb some of it and then go back and re read.
Thank you
June
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Post by philiptancl on Mar 4, 2009 10:38:35 GMT -5
Hello June,
From your postings at various threads in this Forum, your In-Law Chan is from Xinhui (新会) and you have pretty much located the ancestral village. If that is so it likely that your In-Law is descended from Chen Ying (陳英), the third son of Chen Hui (陳è¼). My guess is that your father-in-law would be somewhere between 24 to 27 generations counting from Chen Ying (陳英).
Once you obtain a copy of your zupu or jiapu from your ancestral village, then the fun would really begin especially when the zupu is not in the form of chart similar to those I had posted but tabulated in the order of generation number with names and their male sons listed. If that is so, then you need to locate your father-in-law’s name there or his father’s name. If would be less onerous if their generation number is known as well. In any case it would be quite a task even if you can read Chinese. I have heard of a case where the village headman was given US$100 to locate a certain name within a zupu and promised another US100 bonus if he could finally locate it. In that case, it was a success story.
Once you have located one of your In-Law names, it is a matter of tracking it backward. If the zupu is in tabulated form, then tracing the lineage backward is not so easy especially when do not read Chinese. If chart form you should be able to track backward without too much of a problem. It is just a matter of recognizing the Chinese character of each name as you go along.
After posting Chart 4 in Clan Progenitors References for the Chen/Chan/Tan ((陳/陈) thread, I have gone through the hard copies of my Chen zupus that I now have so far. I did find a Chen zupu from Si Yi (or Sze Yup as my genealogy Master Henry would call the region). It is from a village called Wencun (汶æ‘) in Taishan (å°å±±). The Progenitor is Chen KÇŽi (陳愷), the younger brother of Chen Ying (陳英). . The lineages given therein are in tabulated form and since I find it so difficult to follow without knowing Chinese myself, I had kept it aside until I "rediscover" it now. It would take too much of my time to reconstruct the whole zupu into charts form especially when Wencun (汶æ‘) is not my ancestral village. Since many Chinese from US/Australia/New Zealand originated from Si Yi, I just want readers of this Forum to know of its existence if there is really a need for anyone wishing to refer to it.
Philip
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Post by June on Mar 5, 2009 2:23:40 GMT -5
Hello Philip - once again more useful information. Thank you very much for posting it. I will spend some time at the weekend looking at your posts and the information you have posted. Many thanks - June
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