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Post by bastet44 on Jul 21, 2010 3:21:13 GMT -5
Greetings,
This forum is fascinating! I'm just starting out on the geneology path, even though it's been something that I've been interested in for some time.
My question, and please excuse me if this is too basic...how do I use information such as the chart provided? My mother's side are Wongs (of the yellow kind), so the info in the chart does pertain to us. But how do I connect my family to it? I know the name of our village (in fact, I've been there as a child), but I don't know how to get all of my family history. I spoke to my uncle today (who was born in the village but has lived in Los Angeles most of his life) and he did not know of any type of village / famillial register.
Any thoughts?
TIA! Tamiza
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Post by Henry on Jul 21, 2010 4:37:38 GMT -5
Hi Tamiza,
Welcome to the Forum !
The connection to the Wong genealogy chart would be through your mother's male line of descent, i.e., through your mother's brothers and/or maternal grandfather.
If you can provide the Chinese characters for the names of your maternal grandfather and maternal great grandfather ans also the names of your Wong ancestral village and its nearest market town and county name - then, it may be possible to identify village relatives and acquire a copy of your family genealogy book. My nephew, who lives in Taishan, can do this research for you, however, there is a fee for his services. He has already performed this service for members of this Forum. You can contact me at "Tomclan@Gmail.com".
Regards,
Henry
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Post by bastet44 on Jul 21, 2010 15:12:03 GMT -5
Thanks, Henry!
My uncle will be in China soon. But as I said, he has never heard of a family genealogy book, so if he goes to the village, who would he contact to find out? Or is there a repository elsewhere?
I don't remember all of the other details, but it's Gom Benn village, in case others know of it.
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Post by Henry on Jul 21, 2010 17:10:41 GMT -5
Hi Tamiza,
Ask your uncle to speak to the village chief. A copy of the family/village genealogy book that has the Chinese names of your maternal ancestors may not be readily available, sometimes, it takes days to find a copy or to convince a villager to share his copy so that a photocopy can be made.
Henry
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Post by philiptancl on Jan 16, 2012 1:07:18 GMT -5
For reading the Chinese characters please select "View", "Encoding", "More" and "Unicode (UTF-8)". This is the Huang/Wong genealogical chart I have just created for my friend KS Wong (黄觀星) stretching from Huang Qiao Shan (黄å³å±±) down to KS Wong descendants. KS Wong is a descendant of Huang Qiao Shan (黄å³å±±) through his third wife Lady Zheng (郑). Huang Qiao Shan (黄å³å±±) has 21 sons through his three wives Lady Shang Guan (上官), Lady Wu (å´) and Lady Zheng (郑). KW Wong descended from Huang Qiao Shan (黄å³å±±) 20th son Jing (井). Erik Ng Poh Sing (an old hand in Huang genealogy from Brunei) is descended from Qiao Shan (黄å³å±±) 9th son Hua (化) through Lady Wu (å´). Hope the Huang/Wong/Ng (黄) readers of this Forum will find the chart interesting and be inspired to locate your ancestry. Philip Tan
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Post by philiptancl on Jan 19, 2012 0:51:38 GMT -5
The older hands in Chinese genealogy, who had surf the net in the earlier years, would probably know Erik Ng Poh Sing of Brunei and his quest for is his ancestry. I had been much inspired by his works. I have the good fortune of meeting up with him in November last year when he and his father stopped over in Kuala Lumpur on their way to revisit their ancestral village in Fujian, China. We had a wonderful time together with KS Wong as well. I was given the privilege of compiling Erik Ng Poh Sing ancestry into a chart and with his permission I am posting it here below: Philip Tan
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Post by erikhuang on Jan 19, 2012 1:56:04 GMT -5
Hi Dr Tan, thanks for creating the chart!
Yes, Uncle KS Wong and I shared a common ancestry from Huang Qiaoshan. He is in fact 5 generations my senior. It's very interesting to see how we are related from the charts.
I have revised my lineage after learning recently that our village progenitor, Huang Tianhai, was not the 1st generation because he had brought his father's ancestral tablet with him and revered him as the 1st generation.
Genealogy sleuthing has not been easy for me as details for the past few hundred years had been largely destroyed during the notorious Cultural Revolution, resulting in 11 generations of unknown ancestors, who I'm still hoping that one day I would find out their names.
This is the first attempt to portray the lineage on a chart with photos and I must say Dr Tan has done a very good job.
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Post by philiptancl on Feb 26, 2012 3:45:05 GMT -5
For reading the Chinese characters please select "View", "Encoding", "More" and "Unicode (UTF-8)". Below is the common third chart of Huang (黄) genealogy constructed for my two friends Erik Ng Poh Sing (黄å®æ–°) and KS Wong (黄觀星). Erik Ng’s genealogical chart posted earlier showing his pedigree line down to his children is from the 9th son, Huang Wah (黄化), of Huang Qiao Shan (黄å³å±±) while that for KS Wong chart down to his grandchildren is from the 20th son, Huang Jing (黄井). This chart is also applicable to the Huang/Ng/Wong/Ooi (黄) whose genealogical line is descended from any one of the 21 sons of Huang Qiao Shan (黄å³å±±). Hope members of this Forum will find the chart of use and interest. Erik Ng Poh Sing (黄å®æ–°) genealogy can be followed at www.oocities.org/bx_huang/huang_genealogy.htmlKS Wong (黄觀星) can be found from the genealogy book he had compiled for his family members and is the preface to his book is shown below: Philip
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Post by philiptancl on Nov 2, 2012 0:15:37 GMT -5
I was helping Elmer Li from Netherlands in his search for his ancestry. Recently he went to Fujian to further his search. I gave him the name of a Professor in Xiamen to contact. He had a very good trip and below is part of email I received today regarding Huang.
"I visited the ancestral temple of the Huang family of Shimeicun. This is the family of the wife of my first ancestor in Indonesia. I had a Chinese genealogy of the family in traditional handwritten characters, found in Indonesia, and as I knew the original was destroyed during the Cultural Revolution, I brought the book as a present. The old men of the temple were very happy and even some tears were shed. For 40 years they had been lacking many generations in their genealogy and now all was found again."
Isn't that great!
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Post by Ah Gin on Nov 2, 2012 3:39:51 GMT -5
Philip,
I salute you, as through your intervention and assistance, you have helped a clan to fill a gap in their clan tree, and Elmer in particular. They say giving is better than receiving. Generosity in giving up your time to help is the best gift.
Regards, Ah Gin
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Post by soFTWare on Jun 9, 2013 0:17:44 GMT -5
Hi. Has anyone linked their ancestry to 淡水 新橋圍 (Dansui, Xinqiaowei)? Here's an article about the town/village: baike.baidu.com/view/3718673.htmAm interested in resources such as family zupu's and/or who the ancestor was who started this village. Thanks, Frank
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Post by hotsoup on Nov 27, 2013 2:04:24 GMT -5
Ben and Joe,
I was very excited when I saw one of your old postings. I have in my possession a WONG genealogy book (all written in Chinese) that has a very very similar table to yours. Have you posted any further data on the chart you provided back in April 2009? My ancestors trace back to Saam Lok Lei village, Wantou Township, Shuibu County, Taishan city with recent generations listed at gen 143. I would very much like to compare notes.
regards,
Hotsoup
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Post by bewong on Feb 12, 2016 21:50:53 GMT -5
Hi All,
Just starting out on this website, although my research into my family history has been a hobby of mine for several years now. I am interested in the charts that were referenced by the moderators on the first page, but they seem to have disappeared. Is there any way we can get those links/pictures back?
As far as I know, my family is from the Hin Kong area near Kaiping, although I am still trying to pin down the exact village. I do have several generations of names recorded in a family tree though - I think all the way back to the 1760's or so. However, I'm not sure how I'd track down the appropriate resources to do any further research. Any tips or suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
Brian
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Post by jlwhedbee on Jul 20, 2017 0:33:56 GMT -5
I am researching the Huang family that was suppose to have come from Guangdong, Tai San, Bak Saw, Sai Choun, Ping Yung Lei
I would greatly appreciate any help possible interpreting the data I have collected.
I have solid information on 2 generations born in China, died in America and a reference to 3rd Generation born in China. Documents Attached. I did not include the 1927 document because you are only allowed 3 attachements. March 27 1927 Hung Yin Wong (b 1901) arrived in Seattle aboard the Protesilaus with his wife Mah Shee (b 1902) and son Fong Sheld Wong (b 1925) - (Sheld was the generation name so I assume it should be in the middle? I am new to this) Fong Sheld Wong was born 24 FEBRUARY 1925 at Hen Yung, Canton, Shunde, Guangdong, China, According to the arrival Papers in 1927. This family of 3 are the only family that have a page of their own with the three of them on it. Yin was admitted. His wife and son were held for ?? Then released by a Dr. Hung Yin Wong had previously came to America. in 1925 and before that in 1919 I have determined I have found all three and they are him, based on the address that he says he was going to. (slight variance but very close) The three documents say he is going to go stay at the following address with the following person 1919 - He is supose to be going to the home of his Father Wong (?? maybe San) 3, North 4th Street, Portland Oregon, Relative in China his mother Leung Shee in Tai Shan China. . . There is a hand written name with hers, I am not sure what it means, "Deung Hung Lee" Is that a village or her maiden name? I left the image large so the words can be read. The right hand page is BELOW the left hand page. CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME THE NAME OF HIS FATHER AND THE LOCATION HIS MOTHER WAS AT IN CHINA? 1925 - He is supose to be going to the home of Quong Man Yuen 93, 4th St North, Portland, Oregon, Relative in China his wife Mah She who lived in lived in "Moo Young" China.
1927 - He is supose to be going to the home of Father Wong Ching Lock, 93, 4th St North, Portland, Oregon, Relative in China a cousin in Hong Kong With 3 generations in a row with 2 birth locations is there a Huang Family document that may contain them? If anybody can translate the words on Yin Wong's Headstone I would appreciate it. And I would love to correspond with anybody related. Jackie
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Post by jlwhedbee on Jul 21, 2017 3:48:11 GMT -5
The attachments did not attach to the above post so I am trying again. This should be the documents regarding the 1919 arrival to America. Jackie
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