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Post by tyuti1668 on Aug 3, 2010 0:10:02 GMT -5
...中山故事—趣談中山方言 and 海外中山人? The "slow" syndrome can slove by using some Korean proxy server. www.cybersyndrome.net/海外中山人: This prog airs from 2004 (100+ episode) Which season? North America/ Asia/ Oceania / C & S North America. The "serouis" problem are exceeded 15 mins limit. Cutting videos isn't FUN
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Post by mugenpower168 on Aug 3, 2010 3:01:26 GMT -5
Hmmm, how do you use the proxy server, it's all in Japanese...?
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Post by tyuti1668 on Aug 3, 2010 20:16:26 GMT -5
...use the proxy server, it's all in Japanese... Ignore the Japanese text, the "goodies" are in Speed Ranking/Country Code. Simply C&P the IP & port AND test it by urself . Some chinese proxy in "speed ranking" are very fast but DON'T do anything stuipd (porn/ political sites) on it OR ur IP will be banned. The almost complete 海外中山人 (except C & S America) collection can found @ video.zsnews.cn/. FIND some "FLV" dl tools to save it
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Post by douglaslam on Aug 4, 2010 1:42:31 GMT -5
Thank goodness for Youtube, it adds to what little I knew about my own village (reply 102). the legends and myths. On the same clip 7'45", you can also see the character whose name is Moses in Chinese, never mind the name shown on the screen. Everyone knows and calls him Moses. I don't think he likes his given name, he prefers to be called Heung Tung, which means facing east. That name would go well during the Cultural Revolution. But he is always Mor Say or Moses to the villagers. Go to page 1 Day 4, May 30th for a little greater detail. For those interested in the story of our clan's patron goddess, this pdf has a version of the story. Tin Hau is also widely revered by the the people whose livelihood is on the seas. Chinese people in Fujian, Taiwan, and S.E. Asia in particular are particularly devoted to Tin Hau. scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/bitstream/10125/8307/1/lum%20sai%20ho%20tong.pdfWhen mother was alive, on each visit she always insisted on my paying a visit to Tin Hau Temple. I did the same on my last visit and paid my respects. Unlike other temple at tourist destinations, our own is managed by a fellow villager. There is no pressure to make you buy incense or make donations. People give willingly from the heart.
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Post by mugenpower168 on Aug 5, 2010 1:51:00 GMT -5
One old man, who is about 80 years old, has been pestering me almost from Day 1. He keeps the genealogy records. Every time he sees me, I remind him I have already done so with his predecessor about six years ago. but he won't take no for an answer. I am about to dispatch him with a 100 RMB bill, but my minders stop me. . Why did your minders stop you? Is he a fraudster or something?
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Post by douglaslam on Aug 5, 2010 3:03:23 GMT -5
A fraudster Moses is not. Just that there is nothing else for me to add what is already on record. He wants to make a little money on a returning villager. It is his demeanor that is off-putting. Can't blame him for trying. I was quite prepared to part with a 100 RMB bill for a little peace of mind.
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Post by mugenpower168 on Aug 11, 2010 22:59:17 GMT -5
... Ma Gor takes me on a long walk on Sunday 13th, we walk close to three hours with stop breaks to a town called "Barn Fu" ( help tyuti1668). ... Walking to 板芙 via dirt path The MAP Visited my cousin's shrimp farm in that town around古神公路 serval times as Motorbike Pillion & rided bicycle by myself ONCE so still had some basic memories about that area . Some villagers are native Longdu dialect speaker in 里溪/深湾 Video about a village fight the sytem of People's commune in 70's Posted by Henry Tom for Douglas Lam - no access to the SiYi Forum from China My Excellent Adventures in China: An introduction from you can do wonders. ... I long wanted to visit two villages which are just just a short swim away from tyuti1668's village, Today is the day. Again my mode of transport is on the back of a motorcycle. There is a motorised punt which takes us across a tributary of the Pearl. It goes without saying the water is polluted. Hard to image people used to swim in it and draw water from it for daily needs. It is only about a hundred metres in width. ... ...One village Liaohou寮后, which hosts an extension of my clan and the people speak the same dialect. Yet the next village Fu Chong福涌 just a minute or two away, the people speak a variant of the main stream Cantonese. ... Similar pier in 沙溪 (Defeated by 中山三桥 ) The wood bean (from OLD Macau house -HKD only/ RMB not accepted) in my cousin's (Built in early 1980's) house are bought from sombody from that pier. 南区(环城/對面海) Londu speaking villages: 月山 寮后 金溪 沙田 树涌 I noticed that tyuti1668 has kindly shared some more videos on this thread. Since editing post are not considered updates, most of us probably do not know that these videos were added. Please check out tyuti1668's "Chungshan Story" Youtube channel for other videos. www.youtube.com/user/ChungshanStory
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Post by douglaslam on Sept 2, 2010 4:44:53 GMT -5
At last, the USB stick which was left behind in China is now in my hands. It highlights a remarkable day of discovery ( see page 1 day 3 Saturday May 29 ). All the photos were taken by Ming's son with a camera-phone. As you will see in later posts, interior shots are not so good. Carved in stone: The sign reads Dip Shek in Cantonese, which means rock on top of rock(s). This is the name of cousin's ancestral village. Tyuti1668 would no doubt know it well.This is a gateway open to motor traffic.It is pronounced a little different in our dialect. Dip Shek and my own village belong to a sub-district of Chungshan (Zhongshan) county called Longdu ( in Mandarin). We have a very distinctive spoken dialect. There is a fish pond on both sides of the roadway leading to the village. I am not sure if they are working fish ponds because I can't see the water being aerated, which is a common practice now. I can't see rubbish on the water either if the ponds were not in production. The rippled, and paved surface on either side is for drying rice after threshing.
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Post by douglaslam on Sept 3, 2010 6:56:11 GMT -5
Paradise lost I was told by many people Dip Shek is spared from large scale land filling. Much valuable farmland throughout Guangdong is lost in the name of economic progress. It is happening here right in front of my eyes. It is depressing. This photo shows clearly an idle bulldozer, the operator is perhaps out on lunch. I dread to think what I might find in the place of this formerly productive field on my next visit. China is giving up its pre-eminent position as self-sufficient in food production in its blind pursue of industrialization. Most waterways are so polluted that they are no more than open sewers. What is happening to food security? How is the country going to feed its teeming masses? I am worried. In every village there is a little square(s) centred by a banyan tree. It is here villagers gathered in the shade under the hot sun to cool off. In the old days. certainly in my early childhood, some evenings, there is a story-teller by moonlight or a kerosene lamp, telling tales of kingship, and stories from the classics such as Romance of the Three Kingdoms, The Water Margin, kung fu epic, or Trek West ( better known as Monkey King on TV) while we the children would be busy chasing glow worms. It is also under the banyan tree the water buffaloes are tethered to rest and feed. Throughout my travel in Chungshan, I didn't see one working buffalo. I did see a few elsewhere. I missed the smell of the beasts. The partly obscured passenger van is our transport, with Ming's son as our driver.
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Post by mugenpower168 on Sept 4, 2010 20:03:18 GMT -5
Carved in stone: The sign reads Dip Shek in Cantonese, which means rock on top of rock(s). This is the name of cousin's ancestral village.
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Post by helen on Sept 4, 2010 20:11:01 GMT -5
excellent programme - thanks for that
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Post by mugenpower168 on Sept 4, 2010 20:19:08 GMT -5
excellent programme - thanks for that Credit to tyuti1668 for the upload
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Post by douglaslam on Sept 6, 2010 1:00:14 GMT -5
Cousin's home away from home This is the front view of cousin's house. It is also the first visit for me. Main sliding gate with cross bars are popular amongst the older dwellings. This allows fresh air and natural light to flow through, at the same time maintaining security. They are less commonly seen these days. The gate mechanism no longer works, and only the top four bars are original. It was damaged by the Japanese. The older generation still deeply resent and detest the Japanese. Another view of the front entrance. We can see, the house has a very high ceiling. Every member in our party agrees it is a very big traditional dwelling in a rural village setting. It has four storeys, at least six bedrooms. There is a well at the back next to the kitchen. A big plus in the days before town water was available. Alhough the house is left vacant, it is not altogether in neglect. New Year decorations are renewed when they are due. The painting on top is from Taoism mythology, the Eight Immortals Crossing the Sea 八仙过海 . The Eight Immortals, Genies, Fairies, call them what you will, are well loved deities. There are many stories involved the Eight Immortals. Grown-ups and children alike love them. I am no exception. They are also depicted in movies, parables, popular art forms, etc. A part of the rich tapestry of Chinese culture. www.asianartmall.com/8immortalsarticle.htmwww.google.com.hk/images?hl=zh-TW&q=eight+immortals+cross+the+sea&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=ABiETLGCEYW0vgOwrrj3Bg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CDwQsAQwAw&biw=1280&bih=878The painting survived the Red Guards after the Japanese, the reason I suspect it is just a little too high up and a long step ladder was not always handy. Thanks to tyuti1668 for the youtube clip. I missed much of the village because we were onto something else on the same day. More details later.
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Post by douglaslam on Sept 8, 2010 6:36:26 GMT -5
Same and not the same The living room of cousin's house. Just like most traditonal homes in Sth. China, mine included, to the right is the staircase, to the left it leads to the kitchen, a well, bathroom and bedrooms. It has big ground floor area as compare to most rural dwellings. Cousin's grandfather planned to have plenty of room for his family. No one could tell me who built the house. I think it was the grandfather who was the one responsible with his remittance from the Gold Mt. viz Sydney.. He loved China and was a card-carrying KMT member and supporter. But his dreams of raising his family back home away from discrimination was shattered with the Japanese invasion and then political upheavals.. Lady of the House Two photos of the Lady of the House. The great aunt to cousin, she is about ninety years old, very hard of hearing,and walks with the help of a walking frame. When my spies told me more than a year ago, I just didn't believe anyone from cousin's grandfather's generation is still alive to-day. Cousin's gf had been dead for fifty years. I hope to catch up with her again this year to see if I can find out more from her. Ming's unfortunate accident aborted any further enquires during my May/June trip.
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Post by douglaslam on Sept 10, 2010 5:23:04 GMT -5
Intrigues The inner sanctum of someone's private quarter. Who was the occupant of this room? Judging by the pop star poster on the wall, he/she must have been a young person. Instead of revolutionary posters, the pop poster suggests it was plastered in the post-Mao years. And hard beds, how I missed them. I never slept on a soft bed until my arrival in Sydney. You seldom hear people with back pain in the villages, I think sleeping on hard beds had plenty to do with it. People also used to have hard pillows or head rests. I used to share a bed with my mother, and later with my grandmother in Hong Kong. Grandmother used to have a black pillow made of what, I don't know. It is a bit like a loaf of wholemeal bread and curved to fit the contour of the back of the head. In the warm months, the bed is lined with a mat made of reed or rattan. In winter, it is padded down with linen. I missed them. Frozen in time It looks as though the person left in a hurry. A tissue holder is still in place. The cartoon characters is a give-away that this was once a young child's bedroom. Quite a departure from tradition, the bed has a mattress. I feel I am intruding on other persons' privacy. Just who were these people? What were their relationship to my cousin? Where are they now? It raises more questions than answers. I have to go back for answers.
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