location in Sun Wui

[billiesiew]

Would appreciate for help to get the new name for this location, don't think it exists anymore on the newer maps:


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Tin Ho Heung ÌìºÓàl
Chiew Yeong Lay ³¯ê–Àï

Thanks.

[twoupman]

Billie,

I believe the first character in the village name should be 潮 instead of 朝. 朝陽 (as shown by you) is a village in Taishan County whereas 潮陽 is a village in Xinhui County. To view the location go to Google Maps and just copy and paste this: 廣東省江門市新會區潮陽. The red marker identifies the village location. If you zoom out you will find it is not far from Huicheng (會城) the county city.

[billiesiew]

Thanks, I saw it on the map!

But I also found another place on the map referring to Tianhe in Xinhui.

So I am not sure whether Tianhe or Chaoyang is the correct name of the village now?

There is another placename that I can make out from the notes - it looks like "Lin Kong" (in Cantonese).

Thanks again for the pointer.

[lachinatown]

I agree with billiesiew. TianHe and Chaoyang Li are located near Taishan/Xinhui boarder. Chaoyang Li is shown on the Google map just below Tianhe and the river (and x539 County Rd.). My Guangdong map shows boarder (not in great detail) is east of Chaoyang Li. Maybe change of boarder or not enough detail? twoupman maybe correct to say that the village is in Taishan County.
Chaoyang Li is west of Shangchong Elem. School and horizonally west of XinHui.
Since both Tianhe and Chaoyang Li are within short distance of each others, therefore Chaoyang Li 朝陽里 is the correct village.

[billiesiew]

YES YES! thanks Lachinatown.. ChaoyangLi is the correct village bec I see next to it is Lianjiang which is also mentioned on the address sheet that I got. So all this while I couldn't find it bec it is now part of Taishan, and not Xinhui and I've been googling in the wrong county.

Whoopee..I am so happy.. I am going to Guangzhou in November and hope to get a chance to visit.

It is so fantastic that you and twoupman are helping people like me to find our roots. Bravo!

[helen]

Enjoy your trip - but before you go, plan ahead and do more research. Because the first time is over whelming. So much to see and do, and so little time. Search for Harc3's trip from 2 years ago - he had a great time - and was well prepared - having found family before he arrived.

siyigenealogy.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=names&action=display&thread=963

[billiesiew]

Thanks Helen for the contact. From what I know, we have no more relatives left in China, all have migrated. I am probably just going to get a taxi for the day, and go back to the old village to take photos, and if possible visit the ancestral temple.

[helen]

How long ago did your family leave? There is bound to be someone left that is related to you. Someone that you would not even think is related.

[billiesiew]

Hmm, I think my grandpa left China in early 1900s - I know one of his brothers came with him, and the last brother apparently went to Hong Kong. My father told me the old house was left to the housekeeper. My grandparents died during WW2 and never made it back to China. My aunt went there in the seventies and found the house and met the housekeeper who still lived in the house by herself as she had no family. Both have also passed on. Well, I hope to find some info at the chi-tong, but not getting my hopes up.

[harc3]

It is a very special feeling going back to your ancestral village. I fortunately found an enormous amount of family still in my village. It's overwhelming. Congrats and enjoy the experience

[billiesiew]

I am excited but it wld be just for myself. I dunno abt the other Sun Wui folks, but my folks were very traditional about male lineage. I am a daughter, not a son, so I know I am not going to be included in the zupu, etc. I wld be a "nobody" to the family as I have married out to my husband's family. I am also trying to find my husband's family roots but he has absolutely nothing to go on except that he's from Huizhou, we hv heard of this place called "Cha-tham" - any one heard of this place?

[Henry]

Hi billiesiew,

Since about the year 2000, there seems to be a revival in Chinese genealogy in China. Many villages are updating their village genealogy books and they are including the names of daughters. When you visit your ancestral village, bring along your family tree that can be included in the next update or get a copy of the village genealogy book for your family and add the lineage of your family.

If you need a guide, my Taishan nephew is available. Contact me at: [e-mail]

Henry

[billiesiew]

Thanks Henry, maybe when my travel dates are firmed up. We are thinking of staying in Kaiping, as my village seems to be near to it. Does your nephew do normal guiding as well..like taking us around for day trips? I can speak Cantonese and a fair bit of Mandarin so he doesn't need a lot of English to talk to us.

[Henry]

While Kaiping is just a little closer to your ancestral village, Taisahn City has so much more options in terms of hotels, restaurants, etc, and to see and do. Yes, my nephew can serve as a guide and take you to the Kaiping watchtowers, etc.

[billiesiew]

Henry, I think I read in another section that you are a "Tham"? My grandma was a Tham, and apparently she lived in the village across the river from my grandpa's village at Chaoyangli, some place that sounded like "Stone Cave" (Sek Dong) in Chinese. Would you know if there was such a Tham village in that area?