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Post by decent on Mar 17, 2007 12:00:48 GMT -5
Hello everybody! I am looking for our relatives in Zhongshan, Guangdong. Our real last name is Lim/Lam/Lin. If you have any knowledge concerning the Lim clan kindly contact me.
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Post by douglaslam on May 6, 2007 22:39:13 GMT -5
Hello,
I am a Lam,chances are we maybe from the same village in Chungshan.My village is called On Tong,and our clan members overflow to another village called Liu Ho.We all have the same family name. Anyone with a name of Lum Lam LIM etc. from Chungshan he or she is most likely from one of those two villages. Our clan members the Chungshan people in particular are well represented in Canada,the U.S. Australia, the Pacific islands Cuba, Peru , Hawaii etc.I myself have been living in Sydney Australia since 1961.I can read and write Chinese fairly well. I can speak Cantonese as well as our particular Chungshan Loong Doo dialect. Also the person who is looking for Kai Kok, it is also part of Chungshan, doing very well and shares the same dialect......Good Luck
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Post by raymond on May 7, 2007 4:02:12 GMT -5
Just adding to Douglas Lam's post......there are lots of Lum's here in Hawaii. There is a Lum family association here in Honolulu named Lum Sai Ho Tong, established in 1889 for the Lum clan. Being that most of the Chinese in Hawaii originated from the Zhongshan area (formerly known as Chungshan), I believe most of the Lum's here are rooted in Zhongshan as well. For those who are interested: Lum Sai Ho Tong, 1315 River Street, Honolulu, HI 96817 (808) 536-6590. The Lum society here will be having its annual spring banquet on May 12, 2007.
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Post by douglaslam on May 7, 2007 6:10:11 GMT -5
There is a good chance I might be visiting Honolulu in August 2008 en route to Vancouver for a Chungshan County convention. Lum Sai Ho Tong will be high on my must-see list.By the way, my grandfather went to Vancouver in 1914,and paid $500 in head tax.I might have been a Canadian were it not for the head tax and the Chinese Exclusion Act. That is another story.
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Post by pakelum on Feb 5, 2008 3:27:26 GMT -5
raymond & douglaslam, I am also a Lum from Hawaii but now living in the San Francisco area. My grand father, father and brother were presidents of a tong called "On Tong" in Honolulu. My cousins living in Maryland are searching for our family's village. We are in our 60's and all our parents have passed on. Anyway, from what you two have stated and from what my father used to tell me (and I wasn't paying attention), I gather that when people moved to Honolulu from the village On Tong, they got help in settling in Honolulu from the On Tong club. They could stay at their building on Vineyard near Liliha Street until they got settled. It is five or six blocks away from the Lum Sai Ho Tong. It's an old building but historical buildings of interest usually are. That might be of interest when you visit Honolulu, as well as the Kwan Yin temple a block away from Lum Sai Ho Tong on Vineyard.
Do you know where I could get assistance in finding the exact village my father came from? They left China around 1915. My cousins want to know the exact house. They were able to visit the exact house their paternal grand parents lived in. Same with my Mother's family.
Thank for your helpful information so far.
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Post by raymond on Feb 5, 2008 6:10:27 GMT -5
Aloha, Pakelum,
First, I am not a Lum. I used to live in San Francisco, but now I live in Hawaii......opposite translocations from you. Anyway, in addition to the informational post I provided earlier about Lum Sai Ho Tong, the On Tong address here is 544 North Vineyard Blvd., Honolulu, HI 96817, and the phone number is (808) 845-8409. Chances are very good that you will find genealogical information about your forefathers at On Tong since they were quite prominent in that organization.
Also, I have a booklet that shows a map of Lung Doo District, and On Tong is listed as a village on the map somewhere, in Chinese characters of course. However, the print on the map is very poor, and it is painstaking to try to pinpoint the village especially if one cannot read Chinese. Anyway, perhaps the people at either On Tong or at Lum Sai Ho Tong would be able to steer you towards the exact location of the village.....or with any luck, they may even be able to steer you to the exact address of you ancestral home.
Good luck in your genealogical search..........
Raymond
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Post by Henry on Feb 5, 2008 9:59:45 GMT -5
Hi Pakelum, In the past, our friend Raymond has provide me with information on the Chinese in Hawaii and more recently with a 2007 map which has allowed me to identify and locate your ancestral village of " On Tong " - which is about 1 km west of the town of " Dachong ", located about 13 km (8 miles) southwest of Zhongshan (Chungshan) City. See maps below: I have included a bi-lingual map of southern Guangdong province that provides a nice overview of the major cities and places of this region. I too am in my 60s and I live in Maryland. I am happy to share this information with your cousins in Maryland. They can contact me at: " TomClan@Gmail.com " Henry ![]() mysite.verizon.net/vzepzaui/Southern Guangdong 2003.jpg[/img] ![]() mysite.verizon.net/vzepzaui/On Tong Village.jpg[/img] |
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Post by tyuti1668 on Feb 6, 2008 0:00:25 GMT -5
pakelum: I'm also offspring of 安堂. 安堂 is divided into 4 section north/east/west/south. 安堂 is quite large, my leg still hurts from uncle's funeral yesterday (east to west) passing through the gate out of the village. (People from east part usually walked to 南文 to main road when alive. ) 安堂's map |
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Post by pakelum on Feb 8, 2008 1:21:04 GMT -5
raymond, Henry, and tyuti1668, thank you, thank you, thank you for your invaluable help. I will review the map and pass this information on to my cousins. Next time I go to Honolulu I will visit the On Tong building and see what information I can find.
And by the way, KUNG HAY FAT CHOY!!
pakelum
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Post by douglaslamhc on Jun 8, 2008 15:03:42 GMT -5
Hello, I am a Lam,chances are we maybe from the same village in Chungshan.My village is called On Tong,and our clan members overflow to another village called Liu Ho.We all have the same family name. Anyone with a name of Lum Lam LIM etc. from Chungshan he or she is most likely from one of those two villages. Our clan members the Chungshan people in particular are well represented in Canada,the U.S. Australia, the Pacific islands Cuba, Peru , Hawaii etc.I myself have been living in Sydney Australia since 1961.I can read and write Chinese fairly well. I can speak Cantonese as well as our particular Chungshan Loong Doo dialect. Also the person who is looking for Kai Kok, it is also part of Chungshan, doing very well and shares the same dialect......Good Luck Hi Douglas, I am Douglas Lam too.  My ancestral village is very near you, Sek Jan (Stone Well). Slightly further to the West of On Tong. Unfortunately, I am not able to understand Loong Doo as I live in Singapore and could only speak Cantonese. My cousins in Hong Kong can speak Loong Doo. However, I do find some of the pronounciations similar to TeoChew. Cheers! |
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Post by skypro0227 on Jun 16, 2008 3:35:44 GMT -5
i am also looking for my ancestors in china. my grandfather's name is Lam yek yung. may i know who can help me. thanks and god bless you all.
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Post by Henry on Jun 16, 2008 9:38:41 GMT -5
Please tell us the Chinese name of your ancestral village, nearest market town, county, and province. If you do not know, can you get digital photos of the gravestones of your grandfather and/or great grandfather and post it here on the Si Yi Forum.
Then, some of us maybe able to locate your ancestral village. Once your ancestral village is known and located, the local government offices can be contacted and contact information for the village chief can be acquired. Then, the village chief can determine if you still have relatives still living in the ancestral village and possibly find a copy of your family/clan genealogy book and have it copied for you.
Henry
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Post by yauchin on Oct 28, 2011 23:42:33 GMT -5
Hello,
I am also a Lam and yes Douglas we are represented in Peru. My grandpa Yau Chin Lam moved from Zhongshan province to Lima, Peru. The only problem to that is he died before I was born and no one know what ancestral village he lived in. I was wondering if there was a way I could find that out. Also if there is a way I could find out what our name means (first and second name not last) I have the chinese letters in jpeg from his certificate of registration but nothing else.
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Post by lachinatown on Oct 28, 2011 23:52:53 GMT -5
The Chinese letters should help, depending on what are written on the letters.
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Post by douglaslam on Oct 29, 2011 7:47:40 GMT -5
Hi Yauchin,
From what little I had learned , my grandfather, who went to Vancouver, had an older brother who went to Peru. This older brother, as it was a common practice of the time, sent one of his son to China to get educated in Chinese. That was in pre-War years. This son, or perhaps another later became a well known Latin-American poet. If this rings the bell with you, talk to me.
Douglas
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