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Post by chen on Dec 7, 2022 13:55:37 GMT -5
Although I'm not related to Hilda (as far as I know!), I just want to thank Philip for the amazing work he has been doing for the community.
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Post by Doug 周 on Dec 8, 2022 8:15:01 GMT -5
Philip's philiptancl work on Hilda's Jiapu 家譜(family genealogy) is very detailed. However, if you are a Chen 陳/陈, consider joining Geni.com and look at the detailed Chen 陳/陈 Zupu 族谱(clan genealogy) that Philip and his clan have assembled. Its more extensive than Gene Chin's public site: www.chinfamilytree.com/indexhoisan.html , whose emphasis is Guangdong. Philip has other Chen members who curate other branches. Nice work for both by contributing to their clan members
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Post by philiptancl on Dec 11, 2022 21:37:28 GMT -5
I don’t only do Chinese genealogy for those with the same surname Chen (陳) as mine, but for people with other Chinese surnames when they ask for my help, or to design and construct their ancestral charts based on the Jiapu (家譜) or Zupu (族谱) they have uncovered. The surnames I have done so far are Li/Lee (李), Wang/Wong (王), Zhang/Chang (張), Chen/Chan/Tan (陳), Huang/Wee/Ng (黄), Lim/Lin (林), Yu/You/Ee/Eu (余), Lai/Lye (賴), Chu/Chee (朱), Wu/Goh/Ng (吳), Zhou/Chow (周), Lan (蓝), Mei/Moy (梅), Zeng/Chan/Chen (曾) ), Tan (譚), Liu/Low/Liew (劉), Ye/Yap/Ip/Yip (葉), Zheng/Tay/Teh/Chang (鄭), Situ (司徒), Qiu/Khoo (邱), Xu/Chee/Chi (徐), Hu/Foo (胡), and Kuang/Kwong (鄺). The latest request, just yesterday, from Australia, is for the surname Jiang/Kong (江), one that I have yet to do. I am waiting for the Jiapu or Zupu to be forwarded to me. On Geni.com I have added 67,000 profiles and managed some 69,000 profiles. The figures are still growing as I add more profiles to Geni.com for those who agreed for me to add in. There are quite a few Chen/Chan/Chin (陳) from the US I could add in but I have not asked for their permission to do so. I also add in those that are found on past obituaries, in the public domain, and connected to already in Geni.com. Johnny Ip is doing such searches and he would forward them to me for adding if they are of interest. There are also huge numbers of profiles from volumes and volumes of Zupu that I could add if there are current people connected with them.
Philip Tan
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chen
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Post by chen on Jan 10, 2023 13:30:05 GMT -5
Doug and Philip,
How does Geni.com work, exactly? I see that you can build your own tree... How does it potentially merge with others? Or does it do that at all?
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Post by philiptancl on Jan 11, 2023 2:56:59 GMT -5
Hi Chen,
Have you already created your profile and started a family tree branch on Geni.com? If you stick to the Basic Version, it is free.
I am one of the elected curators on Geni.com. When Geni started, it was with the aim of creating one family tree for the entire world by linking common ancestor(s) between different trees created. So you can merge your tree with others. If you have any problem merging, please let me know by sending me a personal message there.
To date, I have created more than 67,000 profiles on Geni.com and have many more still to be added.
Philip Tan
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Post by Doug 周 on Jan 11, 2023 19:43:33 GMT -5
Doug and Philip, How does Geni.com work, exactly? I see that you can build your own tree... How does it potentially merge with others? Or does it do that at all? Like Phillip said, Geni started as a world tree with the aim of linking other trees together. You have to sign up and iirc be invited to participate in existing trees. I am not a heavy user of Geni.com for my personal family tree. The main reason is that Geni does not allow multiple names in their database. Chinese genealogy is nortorious for the male members to have multiple names. An example is Sun Yat-sen en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Sun_Yat-sen . The Chinese immigrant's names also have pinyin, Cantonese, and local phonetic English spellings based on each families' dialect and to which country their elders emigrated. I use Geni.com as a resource, and keep my family tree at familyjiapu.com . I hope I answered your question and did not digress too much., Please feel free to continue this thread if you have any other question.
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Post by chen on Jan 18, 2023 13:37:10 GMT -5
Thank you, Phil and Doug. I signed up for a free account, and have started my tree. While I'm not holding my breath regarding actually being able to link my tree to others, assuming there's a possibility, how could that be done? EDIT: I should add that this is what I have thus far: www.geni.com/family-tree/share/6000000190897748846
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Post by philiptancl on Jan 18, 2023 21:52:44 GMT -5
Hi Chen,
I received your personal message through Geni.com and had just responded to you there.
Philip
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Post by genekl on Jul 3, 2023 7:36:42 GMT -5
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Post by matthew on Jan 12, 2024 22:55:24 GMT -5
Good day from Philippines, I want to trace back my Great-Great-Great-Great-Grandfather's Chinese Name, his Parents, and other siblings if any...
Because in our family ancestry book here in the Philippines only contain his baptized filipino name "Francisco Tan" but originally according to our elder members of the family, he's from Fujian, China.
I hope you'll help me find with this... you can message me in my WhatsApp number: +639759580904. Thank you!
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Post by matthew on Jan 12, 2024 22:55:47 GMT -5
Good day from Philippines, I want to trace back my Great-Great-Great-Great-Grandfather's Chinese Name, his Parents, and other siblings if any...
Because in our family ancestry book here in the Philippines only contain his baptized filipino name "Francisco Tan" but originally according to our elder members of the family, he's from Fujian, China.
I hope you'll help me find with this... you can message me in my WhatsApp number: +639759580904. Thank you!
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Post by yue on Jan 29, 2024 5:17:08 GMT -5
Dear everyone, my surname is Tan and I want to find my zupu.. After my grandfather passed on, my family is not sure how to continue naming the children (as I believe there's a common generational middle character) where do I start? My family is hainanese. Middle character for my grandfather is 贵, middle character for my father is 如, middle character of my brother is 嘉
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Post by Henry on Jan 29, 2024 14:25:39 GMT -5
Yue, You need to find your generational poem, which is usually, village specific with some variations with other Tan/Chen generation poems nearby or within the same township or province. Since Hainan is limited in size because it is an island. There may not be that many Chen clan genealogies. If you have the Chinese characters for your grandfather's name you may want to search this Chen zupu for Hainan: Hǎi Nán Chén Clan Nán Chāng Zhī 海南陈氏南昌支, 2002 Chen 陈 (陳) family from Qinglanxu Village 清澜墟社区居委会 This genealogy book is 791 pages & was published in 2002 - it also looks like My China Roots has already indexed this zupu with their OCR software so you can search for your grandfather's name electronically: www.mychinaroots.com/zupus/218d6bcb-a012-4c90-bc69-0bc0092ca0f8Henry
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Post by yue on Jan 29, 2024 19:36:07 GMT -5
Hi Henry
I found a book in my late grandfather's stash. Might be the zupu but I don't know the generation poem. I could trace back to my great great grandfather's name only as the previous records I can't read... We are from Tai jia chun from wenchang shi in hainan.
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Post by Henry on Jan 29, 2024 22:24:04 GMT -5
yue,
If your ancestors are in that book, it is the zupu, which should also have the generation poem - ask somebody that can read Chinese to check the book.
Henry
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