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Wuyi
Aug 28, 2010 20:27:49 GMT -5
Post by chumley on Aug 28, 2010 20:27:49 GMT -5
The residents and descendants of the Sze Yup (Siyi) 四邑 speak a regional dialect of Cantonese that is known today as Taishanese (aka Hoisan wa). The region is now known as the Wuyi 五 邑 and includes Heshan 鹤 山 (previously known as Hokshan 鶴 山 ). I'm curious if the Heshan residents also speak Taishanese (Hoisan wa).
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Wuyi
Aug 28, 2010 20:35:37 GMT -5
Post by chumley on Aug 28, 2010 20:35:37 GMT -5
I forgot to mention that professional basketball player Yi Jianlian of the NBA's Washington Wizards is a Heshan native.
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Wuyi
Aug 28, 2010 22:01:12 GMT -5
Post by tyuti1668 on Aug 28, 2010 22:01:12 GMT -5
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Wuyi
Aug 29, 2010 7:03:17 GMT -5
Post by douglaslam on Aug 29, 2010 7:03:17 GMT -5
The people from Heshan or Hokshan, especially the males are referred to as Hok Lo by all and sundry. It is not a flattering term. A no lesser authority than Henry's nephew tells me people in Sze Yup don't look to Hokshan people as one of their own. Dialect difference is a telling sign.
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Wuyi
Aug 29, 2010 13:31:54 GMT -5
Post by chumley on Aug 29, 2010 13:31:54 GMT -5
Thank you for satisfying this (American born Chinese) jook-sing's curiosity. I've never met anyone with roots from Heshan (Hokshan) so I had no idea.
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Wuyi
Aug 29, 2010 23:10:51 GMT -5
Post by tyuti1668 on Aug 29, 2010 23:10:51 GMT -5
"Hok Lo" in HK Cantonese is refer to THESE ppl "Hok Lo" is refered by " Hakka ppl" for Minnan speker. PURE Minnan speaker (NO Hakka in their "homeland") NEVER refer themself by this name.
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Wuyi
Aug 30, 2010 7:31:53 GMT -5
Post by douglaslam on Aug 30, 2010 7:31:53 GMT -5
tyuti1668,
My ignorance, I put two and two together and assumed Hok Lo was about Hok Shan men.
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