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Post by jpfils on Jun 23, 2011 13:53:24 GMT -5
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Post by Doug 周 on Jun 25, 2011 14:15:45 GMT -5
Eric, Thanks for reminding me of this collection from the LDS (Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints or Mormon) site. 6 months ago the site only included the Feng Ping Shan collection. It is great to see the active expansion to include the Columbia University collection. Others may know that there is an LDS collection of genealogy books ( jiapuclick) at Salt Lake City, archived by Chinese who were looking for safe keeping and possibly concerned about the wanton destruction of jiapus from the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution in China during the late 1960's. These jiapus are on microfiche and currently can be obtained by a visit to a local LDS Family History Center and ordered for viewing on site. Hopefully this Family Search site will later include the collection from the Shanghai Library (the largest collection of jiapus in the world) and the Guangzhou Library. Many are relucant to visit the LDS Family History Centers for fear of proselytization. This has not been my own experience nor has it been the case with other non-Mormon genealogist visiting the Family History Centers. Maybe people mix up the experience of Jehovah's Witness with Mormons. The site is rather hard to navigate. First, you need to have Adobe Flash enabled (sorry Ipads). The goal is to get to this site that looks like the image below. Attachments:
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Post by harc3 on Jun 25, 2011 21:33:20 GMT -5
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Post by harc3 on Jun 27, 2011 11:44:08 GMT -5
They have a Shen 沈 but don't know which would be mine if any. Don't know how to tell.
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Post by christine on Sept 2, 2011 20:00:34 GMT -5
There is one Ng/Wu ä¼ jiapu on the LDS site for Taishan/Hoisan, but I can't tell if it indicates a specific region within the county, or village. I am trying to figure out my maternal great grandmother's side. She is an Ng and I have her village in characters, her name in characters, and her brothers' names without characters but Romanized. Here is the jiapu in question: www.familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-12305-62670-40?cc=1787988&wc=9374621Can anyone very Chinese literate glance and see if the first few pages may name off any locations within Taishan?? Thanks, Christine |
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Post by laohuaqiao on Sept 2, 2011 23:42:09 GMT -5
Christine, That jiapu is for the Ng/Wu clan in Shunde/Gulang Cun 顺德 古朗村 and should not have been placed under Taishan. Page 5 has the description of the founding ancestor of the clan in Gulang. This clan is interesting in that girls in the clan were included in the 16th generation, the latest generation listed in this jiapu. This article, in Chinese, confirms female members of the village held a higher position in the clan than other villages. www.chinawu.net/html/29/n-429.html |
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Post by christine on Sept 4, 2011 18:39:50 GMT -5
Laohuaqiao,
Thanks for figuring that out, I did not expect that but it's good to know it was miscategorized. I sent a message to LDS to let them know about the mistake so these jiapus can be used more easily and more accurately. That is really great that there are women's names in that jiapu though, what a treasure for whomever finds out that they have ancestors from Gulang Cun, Shunde!
-christine
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Post by LJ on Dec 30, 2014 23:59:48 GMT -5
Hi Christine,
I would like to inform you that FamilySearch.org has moved the jiapu of the Ng/Wu clan of Shunde, "伍氏九族家譜", from under Taishan to under Shunde.
Since we are discussing this jiapu, I would like to mention that while researching my maternal grandmother's side, my Lee/Li (李) side, I was informed that my Lee/Li progenitor in Taishan was the son-in-law of Ng Mong/Wu Meng (伍氓). As you may know from that jiapu, the latter gentleman was the progenitor of the Ng/Wu clan (伍氏) of that genealogy. So, you and I may be related through him.
But our possible relatedness may be a little more complicated than that: my maternal grandfather's side also happens to be of the Shunde Ng/Wu clan. It was while researching that side of my family at FamilySearch.org that I first learned about that jiapu. So, you and I may be related twice through the same gentleman.
In any case, have you been able to determine from which ancestor in the 16th generation of the Shunde Ng/Wu clan that you are descended? I myself haven't been to do that yet, as I haven't even had the jiapu completely translated yet. Once I get it translated, I hope to find a connection between that 16th generation to the earliest confirmed ancestor on my maternal grandfather's side, my great-grandfather, Ng Hok Jung (伍學忠). I think that his birthplace may be the key: both my grandfather and great-grandfather were born in a place called Shayongfang (沙湧坊), Leliu (勒流) in Shunde. Unfortunately, I have not been able to find this place in the recently re-established Village Database (villagedb.friendsofroots.org) nor on Google Maps. Have you heard of this place?
Wishing you and your family Happy Holidays,
LJeung
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