Taishan Here I Come

[Ah Gin]

Helen,

Many thanks for your generous remarks.

It’s a big find. Not many people are aware of the power of the Jiapu, and any find and sharing is cumulating good karma. I managed to view the jpeg picture you posted. As you probably noted, it’s the Jiapu, Book 1 of the Toisan City area. Good that you were able to source that book. I am sure you will treasure it.

By the way, I understand the Shanghai Library “is compiling the largest genealogical database by end of 2007” Their URL is www.library.sh.cn/english/ I have not yet fully explored this site, but it should be fun and informative.

The Gin Family Web Site: We consider ourselves very fortunate. We have good support from the Elders and Management of the Association. We were able to track down a fair bit of history, heritage collection etc. But still lots more need to be done. End of this year, in association with the Chinese Heritage Interest Network chinese-heritage.tripod.com/ we will be on another Field Trips, to find more things about the Gin Family, and then to further enrich the web site. You probably noticed that our web site has a mixture of Chinese and English pages. It’s deliberate as we are keen to be accessible to folks who may not be entirely fluent with our mother language (generically speaking – may that be Chinese or English, or more to the point, Hoisanwa and English :-) I myself is still trying to improve my handling of both languages.

Heritage stuff is fun and fulfilling, as we think we are leaving something behind for the following generations. Happy research.

Regards, Ah Gin

[natandcynthia]

I am looking for the Chiu genealogy of Fausik, Toishan on behalf of my mum's side of the family. I know that Kevin Lee has part of it online and it was obtained from Sabah, and I know that my grandmother, Chiu Tsui May (died 5 Jan 2008)'s older brother, Chiu Kwok Shum, was in Sabah (Borneo) and died there, leaving at least a son called Chiu Lo Shi. Can anyone help?

[natandcynthia]

Hi Ah Gin,

I've just tried the Shanghai library site that you mentioned, and as I'm useless at inputting Chinese, I tried cutting and pasting words that I've found on the web and it didn't recognise them. Do you know what I could do to make it work?

[tyuti1668]

Are you looking for this village?

[Ah Gin]

natandcynthia,

Being a young player on Heritage "things" and language handling on the web, I will try to take one step at a time to see if I can help and not confuse you.

By the sound of it, your mother's Surname is Úw / Jew / Zh¨¤o (i.e. sounds like Chiu in Cantonese or Hoisanwa). The village you are looking for is ¸¡Ê¯àl (Fow Shek Heung) or, as it was shown on your posting as "Fausik" -- which sounds like "Floating Stone" in Cantonese. Assuming this is the case, then the location of Fow Shek is easily found, as indeed our Map Expert :-) Henry will show you. You probably need to further pin point which of the village within Fow Shek your mother's forebear came from. For example, my ancestral home is located at ʯº£àl (Shek Hoi Heung), and to be more precise, it's at ÄÏÊ¢ (Nam shing), which over time has been combined with –|³É (Tung Sing) to become Tung Nam Shing ÄÏ–|Ê¢. I know it's a challenge in locating one's ancestral village, but it's worth the chase. And I am sure there are enough experts and willing helpers on this Message Board to assist in any way. Hope you have access to original Chinese documents?

Regarding the Shanghai Library site, I still have not fully explored the site from the point of view of accessing their library of Jiapu. That said, the cut and paste technique on most sites will work, so I am a bit perplexed why it's not working for you. Did you cut the Chinese character from somewhere, and then paste onto the Shanghai Library site and attempt a search? I just conducted an experiment: went to the Shanghai Library site, selected the Chinese option, input the characters ÚwÊϼÒ×V, i.e. the Chiu Jiapu, and did a search, but it did not yield a result. Mind you, if you are trying to locate the Chiu Jiapu, there are a number of Chiu Sites on the web already, and you probably are aware of them.

Hope the above helps.

On a side issue: Sabah. A state which I love to revisit at some stage. View from top of Mt Kinabalu was worth the climb. May I wish you and all ¹§Ï²°lØ” -- a happy Year of the Rat coming up.

Regards from ½ðɽ (Golden Mountain), Ah Gin

[Henry]

Hi Ahgin,

I am willing to try and locate this Fow Shek village - can you tell me the nearest market town and county. Thanks.

Henry

[twoupman]

Fushi/Fauh Sehk/Fausik (浮石) is located just SE of the town of Toushan (斗山) which is south of Taicheng (台城).


houseofchinn.com

[Henry]

Thanks Al

[Ah Gin]

Henry, Long time no see -- my fault -- been too busy with the grand kids. From the Village DB, I have extracted the following:

¸¡Ê¯àl
Fow Shek Heung
F¨² Sh¨ª Xi¨¡ng
fau4 sek6 hoeng1
3187-4258-6763 Market(s) ¶·É½
Tau Shan
D¨¯u Sh¨¡n
dau2 saan1
2435-1472
Map Location FQ 9141

Regards, Ah Gin

[tyuti1668]

MAP

This association had published the "¸¡Ê¯ÚwÊϼÒ×V" in 1966

[Henry]

Thank you Ahgin.

As I continue to learn more about places in Taishan county, I would like to share the following maps:

Southern Guangdong province:

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Taishan County Index Map:






Fausik ( Fow Shek ):

[dhfw80d]

Fow Shek is a make up a ten villages under the Clan name Jue (Chew, Jew) and located close to the Taishan border. Its an ancient group of villages, now it seems to be mixed, not knowing where one old village was. To locate the area and village, the direction is nice to know, east, south, north or west. They have a historian that has a book of names and published a nice genealogy in 2002. The village seems to date from the Southern Song Dynsasty, and the story is that two reamining sons of the princes, after their father died fighting Kubla Khan, were orphaned and warded to the princes general, who secured them as his own children, until they reached adulthood. They once tried a revolt against the emperor, but failed, but took back their surname. One of the sons lived in Fow Shek, the other across the river in another part of Guangdong and they are the ancestors of all bearing that surname.

[Woodson]

I have a copy of the 2003 genealogy. Here is a brief clan history.

They are the descendants of the Song dynasty's second emperor's first son. Over the years this branch moved away from Kaifeng and settled in Fujian (¸£½¨). They joined the retreating South Song army and took part in the final battle against the Kubla Klan's army. The clan's patriarch died in the battle but had asked a friend whose surname is Lin (Lam ÁÖ) to look after his two sons who eventually took the Lin surname.

After reaching adulthood, the oldest of the orphans and one of the Lin sons organized up uprise and failed. The younger brother moved to Xinhui and continued with the Lin surname for 3 more generation. The settlement in Fow Suek was 1380.