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Post by geeweilum on Sept 12, 2010 23:38:30 GMT -5
Henry, you are the mapping authority and I was wondering if you coul enlighten me as to the boundaries of the various areas such as area 6 and 7 in particular. Geeweilum
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Post by Henry on Sept 13, 2010 13:05:13 GMT -5
Geeweilum,
I believe you are referring to the "districts" of Taishan county. I am not sure if these boundaries are used any longer. These boundaries are somewhat historical - see description below. The Village DB is very useful, but, I do not believe it is a comprehensive inventory of all villages and hamlets - as some of the users assume. The following is some descriptive notes from the Taishan Index from which the Taishan portion of the Village DB is compiled from:
"Toishan District, prior to 1949, was divided by the Nationalist Government of China into ten areas. Each area in turn was divided into smaller jurisdictional groupings of villages (or lays) termed Heungs or bos. Some of the smaller heungs have been integrated to form larger heungs, usually referred to as major heungs to differentiate them from their constituent minor heungs. For purpose of easier identification, this index and our files have been assembled according to these groupings. There is no village information available to this office concerning the Fifth Area, and consequently no heungs are listed for it in this subdivision of the Index. To the best of our knowledge the Fifth Area consists of only two small islands off the coast of Toishan District – Sheung Chuen and Ha Chuen – and consists of only a few heungs. The Fifth Area, however, has contributed little in the way of immigrants to the United States.
Because of the number of villages in Toishan District and because village names have been duplicated in many heungs it has not been possible to list all of the villages alphabetically at this time. Therefore, to effectively use the Index it is necessary to know the Subject’s heung as well as his village. The heungs and bos are listed alphabetically immediately following this explanation, and by locating a heung in this listing you can determine on which page of the index it is to be found. Should the heung be a minor heung, which is now a part of a larger heung, the name of the major heung will be found in parentheses after the name of the minor heung in the listings. If the heung or bo name cannot be found in the alphabetical listing, and the Chinese characters are known, the STC (Standard Telegraphic Code) index of heungs and bos can be consulted. This listing will be found immediately following that of the alphabetical listing. Both listings are appropriately tabbed.
Once the heung or bo has been located in the index, the finding of the appropriate village is simple. All villages in a heung or a bo are listed in three ways – by romanized version of the name, by STC numbers and in the Chinese characters. With each village is listed the clan name of the families occupying the village, also in romanized version, STC numbers and Chinese characters. In those cases where our information indicates that more than one clan name is found in a village, all known clan names are listed. Villages in a heung or bo are listed in all frequently – used version of the name, since some villages have changed names over the years or have acquired different aliases at various times during their development.
All heungs and bos found in the index are keyed to maps of Toishan district which will be found in the tabbed section immediately following the STC Listing of Heungs and Bos. These maps themselves are keyed to the grid coordinates of the U.S. Army Map Service Series covering Kwangtung Province.
In addition to map location, with each heung is also listed the related major or minor heungs and the name of the market in or nearest the heung."
Henry
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Post by chak on Jun 22, 2011 15:31:00 GMT -5
Tyuti1668 was right! My paternal village, Seuk Gow Hoy is Shek Kau Toi and I found another new relative who outlined the village on google maps. Could never have done it without all of your help! This group is awesome! Attachments:
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Post by fernan on Oct 14, 2011 2:34:54 GMT -5
Hi,
I am doing some research on my father's place in china. In his passport the birthplace is Toy Shan, Canton China. But I can only fine Taishan on google map. Is Toy Shan the same as Taishan? My father's name is Lee Poy (May 1913 - Sept 1982), he came to the Philippines on August 1941 and never came back to china. I just want to connect with relatives. Any information is very much appreciated.
Kind regards,
Andy Lee
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Post by pcdirector on Feb 9, 2012 2:24:31 GMT -5
Is there a hyperlink to current maps of the Toi Shan area? My family is from Kam Lung Tsuen which is just outside Toi San city.. I could drive you there (lol) but I can't seem to find a map, and I don't have chinese language software on my computer, nor do I know the name of it in Mandarin (which a map would likely have.) I would be able to recognize it on a map if I could see one.
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Post by laohuaqiao on Feb 9, 2012 12:02:40 GMT -5
Is there a hyperlink to current maps of the Toi Shan area? My family is from Kam Lung Tsuen which is just outside Toi San city.. I could drive you there (lol) but I can't seem to find a map, and I don't have chinese language software on my computer, nor do I know the name of it in Mandarin (which a map would likely have.) I would be able to recognize it on a map if I could see one. Have you tried google maps? You can type in pinyin, Taishan, Jiangmen City, Guangdong to search.
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Post by lachinatown on Feb 9, 2012 12:45:52 GMT -5
Re: Kam Lung Tsuen
Kam Lung is golden dragon or Jin Long.
Which direction from Taishan City? how far? Also knowing the surname would help in locate the village. I have seen a detail map of Taishan City, but don't remember where.
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