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Post by jezzidi83 on Jul 23, 2009 10:48:12 GMT -5
Hello,i am a boy who's tend to have roots from China,infact i have two greatgrandparents who came to Surinam,one familiy name was named Tjong/Tjon?And later he named himself Tjon A Loi,his wife was named Yung Kwie,i am not sure if it's Chinese?
Could they be from Hakka descent?I hope someone could help me with this..
With kind regards,Jezz
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Post by Henry on Jul 23, 2009 14:11:43 GMT -5
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Post by jezzidi83 on Jul 24, 2009 2:33:18 GMT -5
Thank Henry for the message...
I never been in Surinam so i cannot trace the graves..i only have names and a photo of my greatgrandfather,what i know is that his 3d wife was Marie Fung A Man,and she named him Aloiko..
I don't know for what reason.
They also told in the family that my greatgrandmother was choosen by him by foto,and than she cames from Hongkong to Surinam,could this be possibile?
A family member once told me that he knows that we are descended from Hakka people,but they do not know the original region of them,perhaps it must be Guangdong,because of the immigration.
I hope one day to find out the jiaxiang of my family.
With kind regards,Jesse
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Post by Henry on Jul 24, 2009 21:49:18 GMT -5
Hi Jesse,
Thank you for sharing some of your family history.
If you have the Chinese name of your great grandfather - this is good. Now you need the Chinese name of your ancestral village and if possible, the Chinese name of the nearest larger market town to your ancestral village.
Is it possible to have a relative or friend take some clear digital photos of your great grandfather's gravestone? This would be the key that opens the way for you to recover your Chinese ancestry. Or, is there somebody in the family that can provide this information from direct knowledge or from old letters envelopes and other information sources - possibly official documents or immigration papers.
Your great grandfather could have originated from Fujian, Guangdong, or even Zhejiang provinces - each province has strong Hakka concentrations.
If you can share some of this information - I believe the Forum members will be happy to try and assist you in your research.
Henry
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Post by jezzidi83 on Aug 4, 2009 8:25:32 GMT -5
I think the older generation in Surinam itself,have some things,but the grave is in Surinam,also his wife Yung Kwie?i don't know which is the family name and which is the name of her..family told me she was originally born in China,but when i look for surnames i found nothing of Kwie..
I hope someone can clear me something about this..
Greetings Jesse
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Post by twoupman on Aug 4, 2009 20:00:03 GMT -5
Jesse, Just like in Indonesia, Dutch spelling and method of pronunciation have been used on Chinese names. In Indonesia, there are three types of dialects spoken with Hokkien/Fujian (福建/閩南話) being the predominant dialect followed by Hakke/Kejia (客家話) and lastly Cantonese (粵語). I believe the same kind of mixture would probably be true for Surinam which was also colonized by the Dutch.. Your Tjong is pronounced something like Chong so it is probably Hakka. Yung may also be Cantonese or Hakka. The name Yung Kwie means the surname is Yung and not Kwie which is the person’s name just as in your Tjon(g) A Loi where Tjon(g) is the surname and personal name Loi. Tjong = Zhang/Cheung = 張 Yung = Weng = 翁 (my guess) Twoupman houseofchinn.com |
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Post by jezzidi83 on Aug 10, 2009 4:00:57 GMT -5
Thank for the information.
I think both of my great grandparents are actually from the region around Hongkong/Guangdong.
Could a DNA test help?
Greetings Jesse
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Post by jezzidi83 on Sept 8, 2009 12:43:50 GMT -5
Thank for the information. I think both of my great grandparents are actually from the region around Hongkong/Guangdong. Could a DNA test help? Greetings Jesse I already found out that the surname Yung still is active in Hongkong. So probably the story is true,my greatgrandmother was taken to South America as a bride for my greatgrandfather. Thank anyway from the China side and the Indonesian reply. |
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