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Post by richiechiong on May 14, 2017 11:20:44 GMT -5
Hi Mr. Philip,
I am trying to locate the Jiapu (家譜): My great grandfather is 林能拱. He has brothers named 林能月 and 林华夏. Their parents are named 林哲齐 and 黄淑德.
My great grandfather 林能拱 married my great grandmother 苏治. They have children named 维境,维培,维尘 (my grandfather).
Their family root resides in 玉湖村 or 霞湖村. Maybe you could help me check this out. I would like to obtain the Jiapu (家譜) or genealogy book so I could trace the family lineage where we came from. Hopefully, you could help me.
Thanks, Richie
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Post by sun on Sept 3, 2017 20:02:06 GMT -5
The third chart by Stephen Lim.
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Post by sun on Sept 3, 2017 21:16:53 GMT -5
Dear Philip & Henry: Thank you so much for the fantastic job you have done for the Chinese genealogy & in particularly to the Lin Clan. I live in Chicago U.S. ( From Taiwan originally).In recent 2 years I've traveled to China to search our family root. We completed the the root tracing & we are so happy about it. It is very helpful from the 3 tables you posted. Reviewing our family book of genealogy. I find the linkage was lost from 唐九牧林 to 林勤勞 公(長泰始祖, 福建 長泰縣)。Our genealogy Book stated "due to the wars & rebellions" After intensive searching I found out that our branch is from the 9th son 林蔇, 九牧林之第 9 子,alas. (This was not clear in our BOOK). But in between there is 500 years gap & no where I can find the missing generations . With your expertise may be you can help me find out the descendants of Lin Ji 林蔇 and the missing generations until 林勤勞 公之世代。 Thank you so much. My e mail address : foxlakeb@aol.com Best regards.
Sincerely,
Steve Sun Kuang Lin
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Post by sun on Sept 3, 2017 21:24:15 GMT -5
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Post by philiptancl on Sept 4, 2017 2:17:38 GMT -5
Hi Steve,
From your posting, I would interpret that 林勤勞 is the progenitor of Lin (林) in the county of Zhangtai (長泰縣) and that you have the ancestry from林勤勞 downwards to yourself. What are missing would then be the names of your ancestry between the youngest of the Nine Dragons, 林蔇, and 林勤勞. Is that is so, it is to find zupus for descendants from other Lin (林) descended from 林蔇 to see any of them provides any mention of 林勤勞 records . As Zhangtai is a county, do you already know the ancestral village/town within Zhangtai that your Lin ancestry originated from?
If my interpretation is correct, I could ask my cousin once removed (Stephen Lim) to see whether his Lim chat group members in Fujian could provide any clue.
Kind regards,
Philip
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Post by timothylim on Sept 9, 2017 11:12:42 GMT -5
Hi Philip,
I'm from Malaysia and I am looking to follow the generation name for my child to come. I was wondering if you could assist in locating the generation poem.
My great granduncle's name is 林天送, and my great grandfather's name is 林燕山. I am told that we originate from Fujian Anhui(? Hokkien pronunciation).
We have the jiapu/zupu on hand but none of us are sufficiently well versed in Mandarin to decipher it, so any help you can offer is greatly appreciated!
Many thanks, Timothy
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Post by philiptancl on Sept 10, 2017 2:12:48 GMT -5
Hi Timothy,
So you are from Anhui/Ann Kooi/Anxi (安溪), the county just next to mine, Yongchun/Eng Choon (永春). I was just building up a family tree on a Lim from Anhui/Ann Kooi/Anxi (安溪) and another for Low/Liew/Liu (劉) also from the same county. Lim is the second most populous in Anhui/Ann Kooi/Anxi (安溪) and the county itself have 35 Lim/Lin (林) clans. Some years ago, I had done the pedigree chart for a Lim whose ancestry is from Anhui/Ann Kooi/Anxi (安溪) but now in Selangor. His line descended from the cousin of the Nine Dragons. I am from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. I just sent a personal message through this Forum providing my contact number. If you can show me your jiapu/zupu, I should be able to figure out what you are looking for.
Philip Tan
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Post by calvinlimuel13 on Mar 23, 2018 11:22:01 GMT -5
Heya! I came across this forum while trying to research about my family's heritage and generational poem. Hope you can help me out! My Chinese name given by my grandfather is 林德耀, my father's Chinese name is 林裕波, and his father's name is 林成全. My family is 潮州话 speakers I'm from Jakarta, Indonesia, but my father was born in Urung, Tanjung Batu, where supposedly my grandfather also grew up, and where my grandfather's mother was buried. At least my grandfather's father emigrated from Nanao (南澳) Island. I went there with my family and also with my grandfather, we found a kinda close relative and had meal with him (we also met another much closer relative there but he's no longer a 林, so not much was said of him). I don't remember the name of the village, but I do remember it's a relatively short walk to 南澳总兵府, which I understand is part of 深澳镇 金山村. These are my great-grandparents' tombs, they were buried separately. On my great-grandmother's tombstone are listed her children's names, my grandparent's name listed as being the 3rd son.
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Post by lumlee on Jan 6, 2019 8:52:33 GMT -5
Hi Herman, To find the generation poem for your Lim/Lin Clan (林氏) you need to know where the place/village in China your ancestors came from. Stephen Lim clan is only one of 32 Lim clans I could count from Yongchun County (永春縣) as listed in Yongchun surnames clans reference book I have. I could count 21 set of generation poems for the 32 Lim/Lin clans (林氏) there. Of the 21 sets of Lim/Lin clans generation poems, 19 of Lim/Lin clans have two different generations poems, one for use when choosing the Hui (諱) and another for choosing the Zi (字). The other two Lim clans, one has only the generation poem when choosing the Hui (諱) while the other only when choosing the Zi (字). Of the 40 Lim/Lin generations poems therein, I could not find a match for 三自德 you had quoted. I would tend to conclude your ancestor did not originate from Yongchun County (永春縣). Philip Hi Mr Tan, I am trying to locate any generation from the below 廣東省 南海市 沙头 十德里 字辈: 仁堂祺如 克守仁德。永吉安康 Thank you Kenneth LUm
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Post by philiptancl on Jan 8, 2019 1:54:11 GMT -5
Hi Herman, To find the generation poem for your Lim/Lin Clan (林氏) you need to know where the place/village in China your ancestors came from. Stephen Lim clan is only one of 32 Lim clans I could count from Yongchun County (永春縣) as listed in Yongchun surnames clans reference book I have. I could count 21 set of generation poems for the 32 Lim/Lin clans (林氏) there. Of the 21 sets of Lim/Lin clans generation poems, 19 of Lim/Lin clans have two different generations poems, one for use when choosing the Hui (諱) and another for choosing the Zi (字). The other two Lim clans, one has only the generation poem when choosing the Hui (諱) while the other only when choosing the Zi (字). Of the 40 Lim/Lin generations poems therein, I could not find a match for 三自德 you had quoted. I would tend to conclude your ancestor did not originate from Yongchun County (永春縣). Philip Hi Mr Tan, I am trying to locate any generation from the below 廣東省 南海市 沙头 十德里 字辈: 仁堂祺如 克守仁德。永吉安康 Thank you Kenneth LUm Hi Kenneth Lum, I suppose you are trying to locate the generation poem for the Lin Clan (林氏) from the place 廣東省 南海市 沙头 十德里. Unless someone in this Forum has the surname reference book for that county (if such is available) that also quote the generation poems for the Lin (林) surname clans there, I suppose you either need to go there to search for the zupu (族譜) or jiapu (家譜) for the Lin Clan (林氏) there that has the generation poem that corresponds with what you have quoted. If you are not in the position to go there to do the search yourself, I suggest that you engage the service of the nephew of Henry Tom to do that for you or use the service of My China Roots. Philip Tan
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Post by limsoonhoe on Mar 14, 2019 21:07:31 GMT -5
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Post by lam007 on Mar 28, 2019 5:46:33 GMT -5
can someone enlighten me by referring to the above information,where this the place.? i found from my grandpa dairy.thanks
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Post by lachinatown on Mar 28, 2019 11:09:13 GMT -5
Address: Fujian, Yongchun, Zhongshan Lu (Road)
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Post by philiptancl on Mar 29, 2019 3:56:09 GMT -5
Hi Lam007, I attached below maps to various scales to show where could be the likely Zhongshan Road be in Yongchun County (永春县). There is a small place called Zhongshan (中山) in Yongchun County. Where are currently living? Philip Tan
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Post by lachinatown on Mar 29, 2019 10:43:48 GMT -5
philiptancl, Isn't Zhongshan Lu (Road) located within Yongchun? Not in a separate town or village? That's how I read it. But the famous Zhongshan Lu is in Xiamen.
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