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Post by mexicolam on Mar 11, 2004 11:14:37 GMT -5
Dear all: My father Lam Shu Song (or Lim See Shum or Gerardo Wong Alvarez, their mexican name) was born in Taishan county (at moment I don´t know exactly where) in April 20, 1924. If he still lives, it is to turn the 80 years of age. Bettween 1949-1951 he an his family was moved to Hong Kong. I dont know the reasons. Something surprising it is that he has given in adoption to their 2 male children (my half brothers) to a waiter of the Wong´s Restaurant (1321 Third, Detroit, Illinois, USA) Lam Pok and Lam Sue. This surprising "adoption" news, appeared in several American newspapers and some of Hong Kong (I believe between 1958-1960). I am beginning this history, I will be to appreciate any help. If somebody wants to consult my web page is in www.geocities.com/alfredo_wong_lamThank you very much in advance! |
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Post by niuyin on Mar 11, 2004 14:51:23 GMT -5
The newspaper on Fu Kim Wong quoted Nowak saying "We always called him Chester". Then Fu Kim Wong and Chester Wong were one and the same. Since you have letters from Chester Wong to your father this may mean Mrs. Wong's adoption of your half-brothers was part of the plan in getting the boys into the USA. There is always the possibility of your father compensated Chester Wong financially for his troubles.
You may want to try and contact the Wong Association in Detroit for current information on Chester's family and may be even your half-brothers.
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Post by Administrator on Mar 12, 2004 20:13:06 GMT -5
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Post by mexicolam on Mar 17, 2004 10:53:24 GMT -5
Dear all: I finally finished to optimize my web site www.geocities.com/alfredo_wong_lamI have placed more pictures and letters to translate. Thank you very much to Woodson, their help is very important to try to find my relatives. |
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Post by Administrator on Mar 19, 2004 2:16:12 GMT -5
There seems to be a letter written by your father. It is the first letter in June 14, 1954 group. He apparently had access to Mexico birth certificates. He was selling them to Chinese who wanted to enter Mexico. www.legacy1.net/lam/lim5406b.jpgThe Aug 11, 1954 letter from his wife mentioned that her uncle, mother's brother, may had a share in a new restaurant in Hong Kong called «n¤è¯ù¼Ó. Apparently this uncle lived in a village called °ö¥Á§ø. May be some of our visitors who are familiar with Hong Kong can shed some light on its where about and whether it still exist or not. At the end of the letter she raised the idea of him returning to Hong Kong. www.legacy1.net/lam/lim03.jpwww.legacy1.net/lam/lim5408c.jpgPage of the June 1956 letters yielded an interesting piece of information. The writer wanted to initiate the process of bring your father and his family to the USA. He wanted to confirm his actual birthday which was Jan 1, 1916. The writer's background was traditional Chinese medicine. He planned to move from Chicago to New York where he can practice his trade among its large Chinese population. www.legacy1.net/lam/lim5606d.jpgThe 1962 letters were from his sons and cousin. He was travelling to Tijuana and asked his mother-in-law to meet him there. She didn't go because of distance and language problems. The sons said they were in the process of applying to have their mother and younger sister joining them in Detroit. They also gave him their new address. www.legacy1.net/lam/lim62b.jpgwww.legacy1.net/lam/lim62c.jpgThe letters of 1964 were from his sons in Detroit and daughter in Canada. The letter dated January 16 she raised the possibility of him joining her in Canada and she would then apply for her mother and sister. www.legacy1.net/lam/lim64.jpgIn the letter of May 13 she asked why he still hasn't used the aeroplane ticket she sent him by booking a flight to Hong Kong. The letter indicated the ticket was sent months ago and due to expire at the end of May. He apparently had agreed or decided to return to Hong Kong and rejoin his wife there. Her letter and the sons' letter made it clear that they had agreed to financially support their parents. She mailed $200 to him in January. The daughter gave him the option of visiting her while enroute to Hong Kong. www.legacy1.net/lam/lim64b.jpgwww.legacy1.net/lam/lim64c.jpg |
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Post by Administrator on Mar 19, 2004 21:44:03 GMT -5
Hi Maisan, MexicoLam sent this to me: www.legacy1.net/lam/lim16apr1954b.jpgI'm afraid Hop Yick is before my time and most likely before yours also. It is possible for you to check it with your source in Chinatown? I'm posting this here on the off-chance that somebody else might have some info. |
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Post by Administrator on Mar 24, 2004 1:10:13 GMT -5
Mexicolam, The name of your father's wife in China, in Taishanese, is Toy Huen or, in Cantonese, Choy Hueng (±m»). How did you get the impression that her name is Gim Lee Lung from? Gim Lee Lung is the name of a firm not a person. You'll see it clearly in this letter www.legacy1.net/lam/lim04.jpg |
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Post by mexicolam on Mar 24, 2004 10:43:27 GMT -5
Dear all, My sincere excuses for all the mail a little not well structured, but it is the impression and certain emotion that I have, after 40 years. The envelopes of letters that I have the sender says " Gim Lee Lung" 17 Commaught Rd. W. Hong Kong. Of there the mistaken idea that I have that Toy Huen "was signing" as Mr. or the company Gim Lee Lung. But is that another interesting thing, because she never put her name as remittent? Does somebody have some idea of this? Anyway, the help of this forum and all those involved have been and it will continue being extremely useful. Greetings Alfredo Wong Lam www.geocities.com/alfredo_wong_lam |
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Post by niuyin on Mar 24, 2004 16:13:38 GMT -5
The envelopes of letters that I have the sender says " Gim Lee Lung" 17 Commaught Rd. W. Hong Kong. Of there the mistaken idea that I have that Toy Huen "was signing" as Mr. or the company Gim Lee Lung. But is that another interesting thing, because she never put her name as remittent? Does somebody have some idea of this? Alfredo Wong Lam www.geocities.com/alfredo_wong_lamHi Alfredo, May be you can write to the HK Chamber of Commerce or Board of Trade and see if they have any info on Gim Lee Lung. |
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Post by mexicolam on Mar 31, 2004 12:12:56 GMT -5
Dear all: I want to share my research on two companies that come as remittent in the letters: 1.- Hop Yick Co.(Thanks to the City of Vancouver Archives, 1150 Chestnut Street Vancouver, B.C. V6J 3J9 Tel. (604) 736-8561) According to the Vancouver city directories in our reading room the Hop Yick Co. at 164 East Pender began business in 1948. At that time it sold meats and did so until 1958 when it began to sell vegetables. In the 1954 directory Lim Lip Foon is listed as the manager. The company appears in the directories for the last time in 1960.Does somebody knows to Mr. Lim Lip or their near relatives? 2.- Gim Lee Lung(Thanks to the Companies Registry, 13/F Queensway Government Offices, 66 Queensway, Hong Kong. E-mail Address : crenq@cr.gov.hk) According to our records, the above company has never been registered by this Registry up to the date hereof.However I will to continue trying to look for data on this company. Regards, Alfredo Wong Lam www.geocities.com/alfredo_wong_lam |
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Post by Woodson on Apr 1, 2004 13:15:28 GMT -5
I want to share my research on two companies that come as remittent in the letters: 1.- Hop Yick Co.... Does somebody knows to Mr. Lim Lip or their near relatives? ... I'll with some people and associations in Vancouver Chinatown and get back to you. It may take some time since it was so long ago. Wish me luck! |
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Post by mexicolam on Apr 22, 2004 10:09:58 GMT -5
Dear all: I receive the next translation about the chinese newspaper from Genealogy.com forum: "Dear Lam, From the Taiwan newspaper cutting in 1963, it mentions a re-union of Lee's family before a tragedy. Madam Wong was the ex-wife of Lee, who went into trouble. Wong remarried ever since but brought Lee's son to visit Lee for the first time.
Though not in the clippings, it appears that Lee's son later when to Hong Kong, then to Mexico."Also I place in my site 13 letters more (Maybe the last ones that he received while it was in Mexico), 8 of them of the wife Wong Choy Hueng, 3 of Lam Siu Nor (my father's near relative, I suppose) 1 of their daughter Nakin and another of their sons Lam Po and Lam Sue. Cheers! www.geocities.com/alfredo_wong_lam |
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Post by Heidi on May 11, 2004 17:21:35 GMT -5
I wanted to thank all of you for helping us find our brother! I stumbled accross the web page and cried tears of joy when I saw my father-in-law's picture scrolling down! We are busy frantically e-mailing back and forth catching up on family news! Thanks again!
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Post by mexicolam on May 11, 2004 17:58:05 GMT -5
Dear all: As you can see, my brothers finally found me!javascript:adds("  ") I am very, very happy, now I begin a new stage in my life Thanks to all, I will continue sending mail as I knows more about my past. Sincerely, www.geocities.com/alfredo+AF8-wong+AF8-lam |
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Post by emperoryu on Jul 24, 2004 1:29:08 GMT -5
I wanted to thank all of you for helping us find our brother! I stumbled accross the web page and cried tears of joy when I saw my father-in-law's picture scrolling down! We are busy frantically e-mailing back and forth catching up on family news! Thanks again! Hello Heidi I want to congratulate you and your brother's reunion. When I was reading the first few posts on this subject I thought hey may be I can help. My elder sister's husband moved to Detroit in the 1950's and his father even earlier than that. Then at the bottom a happy ending. ;D Well I did shed some happy tears when reading your words  It feels so good of hearing this kind of story and knowing there're people who want to help others. Enjoy the good times, thank you for sharing the history of your family. Say hi to your brother for me. Bobby / Toronto,Canada |
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It feels so good of hearing this kind of story and knowing there're people who want to help others.