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Post by FayChee on Nov 9, 2018 11:38:40 GMT -5
Hi lachinatown,
Yes, Jason Wu mentioned the difference in page 37 of the old zupu and probably is not the same person.
Thank you,
Fay Chee
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Post by chakrajuices on Nov 9, 2018 13:42:00 GMT -5
My GF had only one child my mother, his wife and baby died at birth a year after having her first child.
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Post by FayChee on Nov 9, 2018 14:41:27 GMT -5
I removed this question and made it a PM.........
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Post by FayChee on Nov 9, 2018 14:58:04 GMT -5
This is all I can make out on the Tombstone.....what is the word under Seto?
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Post by lachinatown on Nov 9, 2018 15:20:01 GMT -5
@faychee,
In tombstones, 公 (Gong) is honorable.
In most of the Chinese headstones for males, you will find it written this way.
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Post by FayChee on Nov 9, 2018 19:51:12 GMT -5
Hi Lachinatown,
That's good to know, I might have mixed it up with part of the person's name.
Wing Tak is going to contact the Situ Library (where his Uncle Liang Szeto works), and ask for help tracing out the tree........
Is it possible that 'You Quan' is a 'paper-son' like situation?
He was also known as 'Ah Wai'......is this the Cantonese version of 'You Quan' ?
Fay Chee
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Post by FayChee on Nov 9, 2018 20:10:15 GMT -5
I just found a post by Doug that answers part of my previous question...."You grandfather’s name Ah-Hoa contains the Cantonese evocative ‘Ah’ added to a given name. Ah is not a given name. At least you can deduce that he is from Guangdong province."
So, his given name was 'Wai'......this looks like my name 'Wai Chee' and my half-sister's name 'Wai Gwin'..............
Since he used his cousin's passport in 1920, and the immigration paper says 'Yew Shuen', perhaps like my father, this was a paper-son name and we should be looking for Ah Wai Seto???
Any thoughts?
Fay Chee
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Post by Doug 周 on Nov 11, 2018 9:44:07 GMT -5
... Doug that answers part of my previous question...."You grandfather’s name Ah-Hoa contains the Cantonese evocative vocative (I incorrectly used the term evocative as opposed to vocative) ‘Ah’ added to a given name. Ah is not a given name. ..." So, his given name was 'Wai'......this looks like my name 'Wai Chee' and my half-sister's name 'Wai Gwin'..............Which given name Sophie's Grandfather used in New Zealand cannot be determined at this time. It could be a zi, hau, or even a milk name. For Sophie’s edification the many names used by Chinese males: House of Chinn: Chinese NamesclickMy previous postclick referenced to Emma Woo Louie on the vocative Ah Emma Woo Louie, Chinese American Names (isbn 0-7864-0418-3, McFarland & Company, Inc, 1998), 48-50. ...These late-nineteenth century Chinese records tell us that the vast majority of the early emigrants had the usual (3 character) Chinese name; however this is not indicated in the early American official records such as ship passenger list and federal census records. The Ah type of name and names that consist of only two words prevail instead, suggesting that the early emigrants were either reluctant to reveal their full names to strangers or they found it more convenient to use only part of their name.... Non-Chinese clerks and census takers undoubtedly recorded a Chinese name according to the way they heard it pronounced or thought it was pronounced….By 1900, however, the usual Chinese name appears with greater frequency when recorded in English....vocative Ah for calling a person by name, as in “Ah Wei.” This is a central and southern Chinese name custom. The use of Ah denotes familiarity when addressing a person by name, whether man, woman or child, and seems to soften the abruptness of a monosyllabic name….
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Post by FayChee on Nov 11, 2018 11:07:17 GMT -5
Thanks Doug, I appreciated your input and hope more information will become available soon.
Fay Chee
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Post by FayChee on Nov 12, 2018 16:03:45 GMT -5
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Post by chakrajuices on Nov 12, 2018 20:07:31 GMT -5
Hi Fay, GREAT NEWS! I contacted Helen who put me onto another lady who gave me a contact in NZ which is a relative of my GF - not sure how close, but I spoke with him yesterday and he is collecting information that he has on my GF!
I am very, very thankful to you, Doug, Jason, Lachinatown, Helen and tyuti1668 for all your guys help!
I am so happy now that I have help through you all and will continue share my journey.
Thanks everyone!
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Post by chakrajuices on Nov 12, 2018 20:08:22 GMT -5
Hi Fay, I will definitely check this out. Thanks
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Post by FayChee on Nov 12, 2018 22:43:11 GMT -5
Wow! Now I am really excited! We may have a long family tree coming for you! Then you will want to take a trip to China and visit your Ancestral Village, take lots and lots of pictures and collect some mementos from your Ancestral home .....well, that's my dream, but you too will get the aching in your heart to go there one day....
Fay Chee
PS- Why don't you go talk to him and take pictures of your meeting one day.....oh, why am I making this about my dreams....
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Post by chakrajuices on Nov 13, 2018 2:57:58 GMT -5
Hi Fay,
That ancestral flame has been ignited within my heart and reading dome of the stories, tips etc really has started it off!
So, a HUGE & BIG THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS HELPED AND ESPECIALLY THIS SITE!!!!
I know my ancestors are happy and thankful to you all as well.
With great appreciation and gratitude 💖 Sophie
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Post by chakrajuices on Nov 14, 2018 4:15:10 GMT -5
Unfortunately, my mum's relative does not know any of my Grandfathers family in China He does have I believe a photo of his village 😊 and I will post once received. My journey continues!
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