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Post by kwoo25 on Jul 28, 2020 13:27:58 GMT -5
  Greetings. Looking for help for translation of my great grandparents grave stones in attempt to find/locate village they came from. From relatives possible village name/location?; Kong Tung Sang Lue Hoi See Heung Lue Kee Wa Ten Heung Sui Young Huang ... but I don't know what this means Appreciate any assistance! |
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Post by lachinatown on Jul 28, 2020 21:27:31 GMT -5
The left headstone has the information of from 中山 Zhongshan.
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Post by tyuti1668 on Jul 28, 2020 23:25:21 GMT -5
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Post by gckimm on Jul 29, 2020 22:29:53 GMT -5
Hi:
First, as lachinatown mentions, the headstone of your great-grandfather simply says that he was from Chungshan (Mandarin: Zhongshan) 中山. Chungshan was formerly a county; now part of it is the city of Zhuhai 珠海市. Second, as tyuti1668 mentions above, the gravestone of your great-grandmother mentions a village called Sui Yoong Hahng (Mandarin: Shuiyongkeng) in Chungshan. Note that on the headstone the characters are 水雍坑 but the second character seems to be incorrectly used in place of the similar character 擁.
The information from your relatives is a bit of a puzzle that I have been trying to figure out with the help of Google and various Chinese websites. Some of the words might have been transcribed incorrectly. Here are my conclusions:
Kong Tung Sang = Cantonese Gwong Doong Sahng = Guangdong Province 廣東省
Lue Hoi See = Cantonese Jue Hoi See = Zhuhai City 珠海市
Sui Young Huang = Cantonese Sui Yoong Hahng = Shuiyongkeng Village 水擁坑村
Try as I might, I can't say for sure what the rest of those notes is trying to say. But Sui Yoong Hahng is located in modern-day Heung Jau Kui (Mandarin: Xiangzhouqu)--Heung Jau District 香洲區 in Jue Hoi/Zhuhai, as tyuti1668 points out.
What would be best would be to get the Chinese characters for what your relatives were trying to write in those notes.
Greg
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Post by Henry on Jul 30, 2020 8:18:10 GMT -5
kwoo25, Adding to what my colleagues have found for you, here is a link to its map location: www.google.com/maps/place/Shuiyongkeng,+Xiangzhou,+Zhuhai,+Guangdong+Province,+China/@22.3013492,113.5747925,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x340162cd5909eb97:0xb621af2646abae38!8m2!3d22.301191!4d113.573784?hl=en Here is a detailed map of the village:  Henry |
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Post by kwoo25 on Jul 30, 2020 10:55:53 GMT -5
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Post by kwoo25 on Jul 30, 2020 10:57:59 GMT -5
Thanks all! This is really helpful. I've located a some writing that I believe may list the village or town. Does this match up gckimm posts.
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Post by gckimm on Jul 30, 2020 12:54:10 GMT -5
Hi kwoo25:
This is much better--this eliminates the guessing game.
廣東省 = Gwong Doong Sahng = Guangdong Province
珠海市 = Jue Hoi See = Zhuhai City
香洲區 = Heung Jau Kui = Xiangzhou District
華前鄉 = Wah Chin Heung = Huaqian Township
水翁坑 = Sui Yoong Hahng (note second character should be 擁) = Shuiyongkeng Village
Greg
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Post by kwoo25 on Jul 30, 2020 14:29:29 GMT -5
Hi Greg
Thanks a bunch! Appreciate the time and assistance. Certainly an eye opening journey as this was known information (kept in a box) ... nice to actually see and now have meaning!
Karl
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Post by douglaslam on Aug 1, 2020 7:05:05 GMT -5
kwoo25, I made a voice message to one of my spies on the ground in Chungshan moments ago in regard to the Wah Chin Heung as provided by Greg. My spy told me, and I've seen it myself, Jue Hoi See is turned on its head, would be completely unrecognisable from your grandfather's day. He, my spy, is confident Wah Chin Heung may still be there,because Heung Jau Kui may survive the big push for progress.
Watch this space.
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