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Post by liemzhen30 on Jul 24, 2024 5:06:22 GMT -5
Hi, I'm currently looking for my ancestral village in China. my 1st generation of my great-grandfather was named in the tomb 林汞啟翁/ Liem Pek Lwan/ Liem Pik Loan, He moved to Indonesian and used to lived in Bojonegoro, in his Tomb it was written that the ancestors village was located in "青浦" Qing Pu in China, the think is when I try to find in google maps the location will be in Shanghai, China. May someone help me whether "青浦" Qing Pu used to a city name or village name between 1800-1900 in fujian. If someone can help to find the location that I mentioned just let me know. Thank you
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Post by gckimm on Jul 24, 2024 16:58:53 GMT -5
Hi liemzhen:
I have been unable to find a 青浦 in Fujian. As you mentioned, there is a district in Shanghai by that name.
Would you be able to post a photo of your ancestor's headstone? I'd like to see the characters and how they are placed.
Greg
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Post by tyuti1668 on Jul 25, 2024 0:40:33 GMT -5
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Post by liemzhen30 on Jul 26, 2024 14:51:28 GMT -5
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Post by tyuti1668 on Jul 26, 2024 17:11:07 GMT -5
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Post by liemzhen30 on Jul 26, 2024 23:45:21 GMT -5
Thank you so much. Can you please help me to translate the entire characters in tombstone? could you give me the google maps link for this village location 清江村 in Putian
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Post by gckimm on Jul 27, 2024 13:04:31 GMT -5
Hi liemzhen30:
First, appreciation to tyuti1668 for finding that village (I cannot find the "like“ button). It appears that the full current location is:
福建省莆田市荔城区黄石镇清江村 (Qingjiang Village, Huangshi Town, Licheng District, Putian City, Fujian Province)
It seems to be especially known as a center for the Huang 黃 clan.
Regarding the headstone, here is my translation:
Grave of the illustrious deceased father, Li Yongqi of Qingpu, an auspicious day of the 12th [lunar] month in the year 1889 [could be December 1889 or January 1890--this is the date the stone was erected, not the date of death]. Stone erected by sons Tianyuan, Tianfu, and Tianxing and grandsons Bingjun, Bing'gui, Bingquan, Bingjin, Bingyan, and Binghuai.
Greg
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Post by liemzhen30 on Jul 28, 2024 4:38:20 GMT -5
Thank you So much for translating the tomb stones. I have 2 tomb stone that I cannot translate, can you translate it? Thank you
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Post by gckimm on Jul 28, 2024 14:14:38 GMT -5
Hi again:
Here are my translations:
The stone on top: Grave of the illustrious deceased father Cai Hefa of Louxia, [marker] placed first lunar month [January-February] of 1919. Stone erected by sons Yangmei and Yangming and grandsons Shuixun, Shuisen [or Shuimiao], Shuihui and Shuiwei. (Shuisen 水森 could also be Shuimiao 水淼; it is difficult to tell from the photo, as these characters look similar. Not sure of the exact location of the village, as there seem to be multiple villages with the name Louxia.)
The second stone: Grave of the illustrious deceased father Lin Yuanlong of Qingpu, 17th day of the 4th lunar month [May 13] in the year 1922. Stone erected by son Bingrong.
Greg
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Post by liemzhen30 on Jul 30, 2024 3:53:36 GMT -5
Thank you so much for helping to translate both of the tomb stones.
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Post by liemzhen30 on Aug 9, 2024 1:32:06 GMT -5
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Post by gckimm on Aug 10, 2024 12:45:48 GMT -5
Hi:
Here are my translations of the three headstones:
1) Grave of illustrious deceased mother Lin Cai Ciniang 林蔡慈娘 of Louxia 樓下, [stone] placed in the first [lunar] month of 1918 [February-March]. Stone erected by sons Yangmei 揚美 and Yangming 揚名, grandsons Shuichan 水潺, Shuimiao 水淼, Shuihui 水惠, and Shuiyi 水禕. (Note that I have corrected the names of Shuichan, Shuimiao, and Shuiyi, who I previously identified as Shuixun, Shuisen, and Shuiwei in the previous translation [post of July 28]). The characters are clearer here.)
2) Grave of illustrious deceased father Lin Yuanyu 林遠裕 of Qingpu 青浦, [stone] placed in the first [lunar] month of 1917 [January-February]. Stone erected by sons Bingjin 炳錦, Bingquan 炳泉, Binglu 炳祿, Bingyu 炳郁, and Binghe 炳和 and grandsons Zengyao 增耀, Zengkun 增昆, Zengpei 增陪, Zengzhen 增珍, Zengyu 增煜, Zenglong 增隆, Zengyi 增義, and Zengtai 增泰.
3) Grave of illustrious deceased mother Lin Yang Liangniang 林楊良娘. [This is the wife of the above, so the same list of descendants follows. Note that the inscription on the right side of the headstone is cut off in the photo.]
Greg
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Post by Henry on Aug 11, 2024 10:04:04 GMT -5
liemzhen30 Here are the Google Maps & Baidu map locations of your ancestral village. Google Maps is useful outside of China, but, because Google is banned in China - if you visit China - the Google Maps link is unavailable. Google MapsYou will need the Baidu Map link: Baidu Map
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Post by liemzhen30 on Aug 12, 2024 19:51:12 GMT -5
thank you so much
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Post by liemzhen30 on Aug 12, 2024 19:51:45 GMT -5
thank you so much for your effort translating it.
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