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Post by Henry on Jun 15, 2021 8:02:27 GMT -5
Hi Chansomvia, If you have the Chinese characters for the name of your mother's father or any of the males in that line, you may want to search the 2009 Taishan Tan Association genealogy bookset on My China Roots website. There is a search box just under the image of the Tan zupu - paste in the Chinese characters and you can do electronic searches for the name - leave out the Tan character: www.mychinaroots.com/zupus/89091a03-ecac-4c86-9129-fed4a7b80682Henry
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Post by LJ on Feb 22, 2022 2:42:34 GMT -5
Hey everyone! My name is Jason Tom (×TÖ¾ºÀ), I live in Honolulu, Hawai`i. Henry, I'm not sure whether you know of who I am or not. I'm also a beatboxer, and my official beatbox (¿Ú¼¼) website is located here: www.jasontom.comKeep up the great work Henry! Hi Jason, Welcome to the Forum. It is great that you are Chinese literate and "beatboxer". Is your family from the SiYi region and do you know the Chinese name of your ancestral village? Henry I'm not completely literate in Chinese in writing and reading. I wish. I am stronger in comprehending Mandarin especially for verbal communication. I also speak a venicular Chinese (bai hua) language from Zhongshan, and know some Cantonese. Yes my family is in the SiYi region, and I do know the Chinese name of my ancestral village. I just came back from there. I'll send you a message, you probably know of or already know my uncle. Hi Jason, Happy Chinese New Year! Happy Year of the Tiger! The ancestral village of my wife's paternal side, the Toms, is also in Zhongshan. The name of the village is Changlianbu, Xiepaicun, Doumen, Zhongshan (廣東中山斗門斜排村長連埔). And the older generations of her family speak Zhongshanhua. What is the name of your ancestral village? You can respond via a private message. Gung Hay Fat Choy! Gung Xi Fa Cai! LJeung P.S. I saw your Beatboxing video at your website, and it's really cool!
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Post by andytan on Feb 28, 2022 16:48:59 GMT -5
LJ Looks like that post from Jason Tom was from April 02, 2008 10:45PM.
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Post by andytan on Feb 28, 2022 16:51:08 GMT -5
Anyone here from 台山筋坑光明鄉常興村?
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Post by LJ on Mar 8, 2022 4:07:00 GMT -5
LJ Looks like that post from Jason Tom was from April 02, 2008 10:45PM. Hi andytan, Thank you for noticing the date of Jason's post. I actually took note of it before I made my own post. And I made the post anyway and hoped that he would respond, because his mentioning that he spoke a vernacular Chinese language of Zhongshan may be a significant lead to the genealogy of my wife's Tom side. Cheers! LJeung
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Post by LJ on Mar 8, 2022 4:19:10 GMT -5
Anyone here from 台山筋坑光明鄉常興村? Hi andytan, Is your Tom side from this village? I could not find a Hom / Tam (Tán) village with exactly this name at the Village DB, but I found one with a few of the same characters, 台山白水鄉上白水筋坑村 (http://villagedb.friendsofroots.org/display.cgi/village/2972). Cheers! LJeung
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Post by andytan on Mar 28, 2022 21:03:22 GMT -5
LJ My Tom (譚) side was from that village/township area that you provided from the Village Database in your March 8th 2022 response. What's up? Also, I might not respond for a while as I do not receive notifications from SiyiGenealogy.
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Post by LJ on Jul 17, 2022 0:03:00 GMT -5
Hi andytan, Sorry for taking so long to respond. I myself sometimes take a while to respond to posts and messages tagging me. Even though I set my profile to follow you, I didn't receive a notification about your Mar 28 post. Inexplicably though, I did receive one about your Feb 28 post. Perhaps you'll receive notifications about my responses to your posts if you follow me. Thank you though for confirming that your Tom side was from 台山白水鄉上白水筋坑村. When I wrote my Mar 28 post, I was just wondering if your Tom side was from that village, and wanted to let you know that I couldn't find it under the name you gave on Feb 28, 台山筋坑光明鄉常興村. Is 筋坑光明鄉 an alternate name for 白水鄉, and 筋坑村 an alternate name for 常興村? At the moment, I don't know if I have any ancestors from 台山白水鄉上白水筋坑村. As I mentioned in my Feb 21 post, my wife's Tom side were from 廣東中山斗門斜排村長連埔. I do have Tom ancestors as well, but the only ones I know of were a great-grandmother from 廣東開平水口, and a 15th great-grandmother who married my Lee 15th great-grandfather from 廣東台山沖蔞 (the latter Tom might instead have been a step 15th great-grandmother, as she was just one of three wives that the Lee zupu lists for my 15th great-grandfather without indicating which wife was the mother of my Lee 14th great-grandfather). However, I might have more recent Tom ancestors from 台山. At GEDmatch.com, I discovered that jeremychin and I have more recent but unknown common ancestors, probably between 7th and 9th great-grandparents, and possibly through the Tom clan of 台山. Searching for those ancestors has been quite an undertaking though, as one can have up to 512 7th great-grandparents and up to 2048 9th great-grandparents. Fortunately, the connections between jeremychin and me are on my maternal side, so for me, the maximum numbers of ancestors to sift through for each connection are automatically halved to 256 and 1024, respectively. Hopefully, he and I can find other shortcuts in our search. Incidentally and also coincidentally, jeremychin's family and mine already knew each other for years before the discovery of these connections! It is a small world after all! Cheers! LJeung
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Post by andytan on Jul 20, 2022 22:12:24 GMT -5
台山 筋坑 光明鄉 常興村 www.google.com/maps/place/22%C2%B013'25.9%22N+112%C2%B045'09.3%22E/@22.223856,112.7504053,907m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x214689f9a75b6402!7e2!8m2!3d22.2238508!4d112.7525941 I couldn't upload the screenshot of the village due to it being >1MB. No idea if 筋坑光明鄉 = 白水鄉 Is 筋坑村 an alternate name for 常興村? Answer: No. 筋坑村 is the township or village cluster. 常興村 is the village.
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Post by LJ on Jul 21, 2022 3:28:23 GMT -5
Hi andytan, Thanks for the Google Maps link and the clarification. When I selected the Maps layer and zoomed out with two clicks of the minus sign, I saw Jinkeng / 筋坑 at 22.226209956734017, 112.76296881298369 and Jinkencun / 常興村 at 22.233559191083607, 112.76472834203079. I didn't see 常興村 marked by name though, but when I searched for 常興, 台山 by the pinyin Changxing, Taishan, I found it at 22.22241281546365, 112.75808369387671, although offset to the southeast from the Satellite layer, due to restrictions on geographic data in China according to Wikipedia. I didn't see 光明鄉 or 白水鄉 either, but when I searched for 光明, 台山 by Guangming, Taishan, I found two nearby sites called Guangming School and Guangming Hardware Products, Co., Ltd. I couldn't find 白水鄉 by Baishui, Taishan, not one in the vicinity anyway. So, I gather the following: 筋坑 is the village cluster. 常興村 and 常興村 are two of the villages in this cluster. 光明鄉 and 白水鄉 are no longer official administrative divisions, but the name 光明 is used by schools and businesses. Cheers! LJeung
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Post by andytan on Jul 21, 2022 10:16:55 GMT -5
Jinkeng (筋坑) is the general location name. Guangming (光明鄉) is the name of the Township these villages belong to. Changxing (常興村) is the name of the village my first great grandfather was from. It's north of Everbright University (within a 5 minute walking distance), which is a well known university in Taishan apparently. There's also a cafe there apparently. Yes. LJ
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Post by LJ on Jul 21, 2022 13:53:16 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarifications, andytan.
LJeung
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Post by FayChee on Aug 11, 2023 21:06:52 GMT -5
Hi Henry and Everyone! I have been trying to piece together my half-sister's husband's Village. His name was a Tom/Tam, and was orphaned, and I think raised by someone in his village. He married my half-sister who lived with her dad in the Szeto village of Chaoyangli around 1945. They built a 3 story home with gun turrets in what I think is a Tam Village, but were forced to quickly flee and leave everything around 1947 or 48 (Land Reform Era). They came to the USA by way of Hong Kong. I finally got a picture of their tombstone and the Google Translation read "Tong'anli, Kaiping". My friend found 2 Tam Villages in Kaiping with similar names, "Tung On Lay". I also had gotten a 'fuzzy' picture of their 3 story home (diaolou-like), and yesterday received a picture of my dad's two wives standing on the "Dui Lau" of the home. I asked my nephew if he knew the name of the village where my sister built the house, and he said 3 miles away at Sun Qu Tow (Tam) Village. The Village DB had a Sun Kiu Tau Village which was a Tam village, but I could not tell how far away it was from my granddad's Szeto Village. If anyone can offer any information, I would appreciate it. I am guessing that Tong'anli Village may be where he was raised, and that Sun Kiu Tau is where they build their home since it was close to our Szeto Village. Thank you, Fay Chee
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